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    Quote Originally Posted by Churchwork View Post
    A denomation tries to make itself bigger. It doesn't know any better. But Biblical ecclesiology doesn't try to do that. It maintains its scope of operation harmoniously. Only the Apostle is a regional worker. All other workers are local in nature: prophet, evangelist, shepherd.

    Everything I have told you is in agreement with God's word. The reason you don't understand it is because of your flesh.
    You are not in agreement with God's Word, you are puffed up and are an arrogant Pharisee. Elders and Deacons are the only offices we have today because a qualification for Apostle was one who was an original disciple of Jesus. The Apostle had the purpose of laying the foundation of the Church... A foundation is only laid once dude... It was laid by the Twelve...

    I am happy for you because you in your on ability saved yourself. That is the Gospel you preach, one that is lacking Christ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Missionary View Post
    You are not in agreement with God's Word, you are puffed up and are an arrogant Pharisee. Elders and Deacons are the only offices we have today because a qualification for Apostle was one who was an original disciple of Jesus. The Apostle had the purpose of laying the foundation of the Church... A foundation is only laid once dude... It was laid by the Twelve...

    I am happy for you because you in your on ability saved yourself. That is the Gospel you preach, one that is lacking Christ.
    You're not born-again because you are a Calvinist. You try to save yourself by assuming you were regenerated without repenting and believing in Christ to be regenerated. God has given you these abilities graciously, but instead of obtaining the gift of repentance and faith you prefer to pridefully and selfishly assume you were regenerated which of course there is no basis for in Scripture. That's why you are going to Hell, the Hell you don't even think exists, according to your profile. Your spirit is dead to God, that's why you misread the Bible on so many areas of importance. You're in your head. Your claim there was only 12 Apostles is easily disproven by the word of God. There was the Twelve original Apostles, but the work of Apostles continues by God directly selecting whom He choses for this office. If Apostles didn't exist the churches would crumble away, because there is no person doing the work of a missionary. Wake up O dead man!

    Your hostility against how God saves matches your hostility to the Apostles in which you said none exist today. You do this to exalt yourself above them, yet still you can't disprove the proofs for Apostles in Scripture are for today and the Apostles in Scripture who had not seen Jesus alive from the dead:

    Some other Apostles not among the Twelve: (a) Barnabas (Acts 14:14) — "the apostles Barnabas and Paul"; (b) Timothy (1 Thess. 1:1 with 2:6); (c) Ephesians 4:8,11 are relevant — 4:8 "Wherefore he saith, When he ascended up on high, he led captivity captive, and gave gifts unto men.... [vs. 11] And he gave some, apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers." Various unnamed apostles (and the other three workers as gifts for the Church) were given after Jesus' ascension back to heaven; (d) "The Didache" contained instructions on how to distinguish between false and true apostles; (e) "Thou hast tried them which say they are apostles" (Rev. 2.2). This verse wouldn't make much sense if there were no longer any Apostles setting up the churches.

    You're killing my brain cells because you are always wrong. Inspire me by repenting of Calvinism and giving your life to Christ, accepting the Apostles for today, acknowled Hell is a real place of eternal conscious separation from God, and the coming premillennial dispensation when Jesus returns to reign in Person on earth (Zech. 14.4, Acts 1.11, Rev. 1.7) with His overcomer believers (Rev. 2.26, 20.4).

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