Have you noticed these two guys donate to charities, but never do they give to the Church. They give a ridiculously small percentage of their income and wealth. This is a good proof of salvation by works. They do these limited works but look where their work is directed against what God values most, the Church.
If they were saved, not going to Hell, they would search out and discern who the Apostles are and support them. I don't mean give money to denominations or non-denominations, but to the Apostles, to Prophets, to Evangelists, and Teachers/Shepherds.