General Relativity

General Relativity says time is a physical property and is influenced by mass, acceleration, and gravity. This has been proven 14 different ways to the 19th decimal point. Since God has neither mass, acceleration, nor gravity, He is outside the restrictions of time. He has infinite time or He has "lots of time".

"For thus saith the High and Lofty one, that inhabiteth eternity..." (Isaiah 57.15).

How does God authenticate His message to us from outside of time?

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done..." (Isaiah 46.10). He authenticates His message by writing history before it happens, demonstrating the orgin is from outside time.

"People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between the past, the present and the future, is only a stubbornly persistent illusion" (Albert Einstein).

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Originally Posted by Churchwork

General Relativity says time is a physical property and is influenced by mass, acceleration, and gravity.

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No. Special Relativity posits that time is a dimension akin to spacial ones (in that we can propagate through them). Lorentz transformations treat time as a special spacial dimension, and yields interesting things things like time dilation and the infamous 'Barn Door' paradox.

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This has been proven 14 different ways to the 19th decimal point.

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This sentence makes no sense.

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Since God has neither mass, acceleration, nor gravity, He is outside the restrictions of time.

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Non sequitur. A body without mass or acceleration is not necessarily 'outside time'. Indeed, such a 'timeless' body would not be able to do anything at all, ever.

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He has infinite time or He has "lots of time".

"For thus saith the High and Lofty one, that inhabiteth eternity..." (Isaiah 57.15).

How does God authenticate His message to us from outside of time?

"Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done..." (Isaiah 46.10). He authenticates His message by writing history before it happens, demonstrating the orgin is from outside time.

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The Qu'ran states that the universe is expanding. Does this validate the entire Qu'ran?

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"People like us, who believe in physics, know that the distinction between the past, the present and the future, is only a stubbornly persistent illusion" (Albert Einstein).

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Einstein was also an atheist. Go figure.

When the Bible predicts something that could not have been predicted any other way than it is God's Word, this is not the same thing as saying the universe is expanding as some lucky guess. The Bible predicted the amazing truth in Daniel's prophecy centuries earlier when the Messiah would come and die for the sins of the world and be resurrected.

Your issue is not with me but with the Nova program that said time is a physical property and has been proven 14 different ways.

Since the uncreated is proven to exist, obviously He can do as He wills and your saying He can't is just your assumption without basis, for the uncreated is proven since nothing in nature can happen all by itself.

"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." (Albert Einstein) Other scientists of faith may interest you.

My username has changed. I am Wiccan_Child :laugh:

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When the Bible predicts something that could not have been predicted any other way than it is God's Word, this is not the same thing as saying the universe is expanding as some lucky guess.

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Agreed. However, since the Bible has done no such thing, this point is moot.

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The Bible predicted the amazing truth in Daniel's prophecy centuries earlier when the Messiah would come and die for the sins of the world and be resurrected.

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What makes you think this prophecy ever occured? There is no evidence of Jesus' existance. Indeed, the absence of documents attesting Jesus' existance and activities (in the Temple, for example) written by any of the several dozen contempory historians is most telling of his non-existance.

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Your issue is not with me but with the Nova program that said time is a physical property and has been proven 14 different ways.

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Source?

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Since the uncreated is proven to exist, obviously He can do as He wills and your saying He can't is just your assumption without basis, for the uncreated is proven since nothing in nature can happen all by itself.

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On the contrary, spontaneous generation has been observed.

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"Science without religion is lame; religion without science is blind." (Albert Einstein)

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"My position concerning God is that of an agnostic. I am convinced that a vivid consciousness of the primary importance of moral principles for the betterment and ennoblement of life does not need the idea of a law-giver, especially a law-giver who works on the basis of reward and punishment."

Albert Einstein in a letter to M. Berkowitz, October 25, 1950; Einstein Archive 59-215; from Alice Calaprice, ed., The Expanded Quotable Einstein, Princeton, New Jersey: Princeton University Press, 2000, p. 216.

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Other scientists of faith may interest you.

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Notice how none of them achieve results because of their faith. That they are religious is, it seems, incidental. Indeed, the majority of scientists are atheistic.

Their faith is what caused them to be humble in non-overassuming anything.

Looks like Albert contradicted himself.

Since you can't overturn the Minimal Facts Approach, realize you are without excuse.

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Their faith is what caused them to be humble in non-overassuming anything.

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Their faith did nothing of the sort. Scientific discoveries have been found by people of all theological backgrounds and stances. Christianity has no beneficial effect on a scientist's career.

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Looks like Albert contradicted himself.

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Hardly. His "Religion without science..." quotation used 'religion' as a euphamism for morality.

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Since you can't overturn the Minimal Facts Approach, realize you are without excuse.

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Since I haven't tried to refute it, I'd ask you to hold judgement.

The faith in our creator by the proof of God takes humility in being non-overassuming. Scientific discoveries require a certain humility also. Man can be humble to a point to discover truths, but the ultimate truth requires acceptance of the forgiveness of the cross.