James White is Helping to Send More People to Hell with Him
Re: MaharlikaAWA
http://www.youtube.com/user/MaharlikaAWA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGECWgBZUmM
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Originally Posted by MaharlikaAWA
Your argument that James White will not repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated makes no sense!! Of course he has! You dont even know what real calvinism believes and assume we believe in fatalism which is completely wrong. What is the proof that James White refuses to repent to God and believe in Christ?
Just ask him yourself. James White will tell you he never repented and believed in Christ to be regenerated. As all Calvinists, he pridefully assumed he was irresistibly selected that then caused him to allegedly repent and believe. Irresistible regeneration is fatalism. He shows he was never saved because this is a selfish salvation. It is ugly to teach that God pretentiously preteritions, that is, gives billions no grace whatsoever to have the opportunity to be saved. What love is that?
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It seems the one who is prideful is you, since you want credit for choosing your own salvation and being good or smart enough to accept God. Calvinists at least admit they are depraved and it is God who humbles them by His grace, not their own doing.
I thought before you said White and yourself did repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated, thus, you're crediting yourself according to your theory. Why then the doublestandard? And how are you not crediting yourself when you assumed pridefully you were irresistibly selected, not having had to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated? I guess you are smarter than God when God said He died on the cross for all men as His grace is sufficient for all of us to respond to His pleading and mercy, grace and wooing of the Holy Spirit.
Christians don't say we are not depraved just not totally depraved since we are still made in God's image and God's grace is sufficient for us all. Whereas your god of Calvinism is not, and apparently you are strong enough in your sin to annihilate the image of God in man.
Christians don't consider what you consider to be humble actually humble, for how you are you being humble when you pontificate you were irresistibly made to choose against your will? A forced opinion against its will is of the same opinion still. You do this of your own doing, not of God. Total depravity can't be true if God's grace is sufficient for all men. Amen.
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The fact God even saves any of us is true love. You originally said James White did not repent to be regenerated, but then say he believes he was caused to repent by God's irrisistible grace. So you are contradicting yourself. James White DID repent and believe in God for regeneration. All calvinists believe that even the elect are unregenerated and under God's wrath until the point of conversion.
It would be evil if God sent a single person to Hell without the grace and opportunity to be saved, for it was not a person's fault he was born into sin, but it is his fault if he rejects God's saving grace. You're like the Devil, that old dragon, doing your father's bidding, when you accuse God of being unholy when He is unwilling to send a single person to Hell without the sufficient grace and opportunity to be saved.
There is no contradiction in saying White refuses to repent and believe in Christ to be regenerated AND saying he was caused to do something by his god's irresistibly alleged grace. By his assuming falsely he was irresistibly selected is thus not genuinely coming to the cross as a helpless sinner so he never truly repented and believed in Christ to be regenerated.
James White never repented and believed in Christ to be regenerated. He says he was irresistibly regenerated which he claims forced him to repent and believe in Christ. But it's a lie.
Calvinists don't just say the unsaved are under God's wrath; but they say they were irresistibly selected and others were sent to Hell with no opportunity or grace to saved. If it is evil for us to be this way to one another then it is evil for your god and thus, your god is Satan and you are going to Hell.
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Calvinists do not believe in fatalism because we are not forced to sin. We already are sinners because we are totally depraved. Its impossible for any man to go to Christ and keep his own salvation. It is God alone who saves and keeps us in His grace. This is not in anyway prideful. It makes no sense to say this is prideful its the opposite. Its not by our doing that we are saved but by Gods. No one originally even wants God to begin with and all rejected Him and are going to hell.
Calvinists do believe in fatalism because though you may deny you were forced to sin, you were forced to sin and go to Hell in your scheme because this sin you were born into is given no provision from your god, thus making your god Satan the author of sin. This all you speak of is fatalism and decrepit morals. Wheres God of the Bible provides a solution to all men with abundant and merciful grace whosoever is willing.
You are not Totally depraved since God provides sufficient grace to all men. This is an idol you erect that separates you from the love of the one true God since it prevents you from repenting and believing in Christ to be regenerated. How can you truly repent if you erect an idol which says you cannot?
I don't believe a person can keep his own salvation, nor do I believe God irresistibly forces a person into salvation to keep them saved so unnaturally. Those who are truly saved gave their lives to God to keep us knowing we can't keep ourselves saved (OSAS Arminians).
It's a lie of Satan to say "It is impossible for any man to go to Christ". "To all who received him, who believed in his name, he gave the power to become children of God; who were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh nor of the will of man, but of God" (John 1.12-13). You're calling God a liar.
It is not prideful to say God keeps us in His grace, but it is prideful if by saying this you actually mean you were irresistibly selected and thus forced into it which is what you are saying since you are a Calvinist. Since God's provision, providence, mercy, grace, love and work of the Spirit are to provide sufficient grace to all men, then it is not prideful to say we whom are saved gave our lives to Christ. This is what God wants is for you to do this very thing, but still you are too selfish to do so.
It is not by our own doing that we give our lives to Christ for we would not even exist without God's doing. But just because God gives us the choice in no way suggests we are superseding His will or that He is doing it irresistibly and you have no choice in the matter. That's evil just as it is evil for any person to impose himself on another.
Since God provides sufficient grace to all men then we can all freely obtain the gift of faith. Originally, we did not exist so God created us. Likewise, when all men were born into sin, God was not evil like your god and did nothing and say we all belong in Hell because we were born that way. No! He gave us mercy and grace and the redemptive design whereas your god does not. Your god is pathetic. God of the Bible totally trumps your god. Forcing salvation on anyone is evil just as denying any opportunity for salvation is evil.
Praise the Lord for this discernment! Amen.
