The Conditions of the Millennium

The Conditions of the Millennium

Isa. 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem. 2 And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD'S house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it. 3 And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. [5] O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD.
6 The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them. 7 And the cow and the bear shall feed; their young ones shall lie down together: and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. 8 And the sucking child shall play on the hole of the asp, and the weaned child shall put his hand on the cockatrice's den. 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all my holy mountain: for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea.

This refers to the Messianic Kingdom which is Israel's portion to be the center of all nations. War ceases in the 1000 years just like Revelation 20 says, "And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season" (v.3). The lion and the lamb will lay down together in peace.

Isa. 65.12 For thus saith the LORD, Behold, I will extend peace to her like a river, and the glory of the Gentiles like a flowing stream: 20 There shall be no more thence an infant of days, nor an old man that hath not filled his days; for the child shall die an hundred years old; but the sinner being an hundred years old shall be accursed.

In the millennium, those with bodies of flesh and blood will almost always live to be over 100 years of age. The peace of the nations will come.

Zech. 14.6 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles. 17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

This is the consequence of sin in the millennial kingdom, that any nation that does not go up to Jerusalem to worship God will receive environment hardships.

Isa. 30.26 Moreover the light of the moon shall be as the light of the sun, and the light of the sun shall be sevenfold, as the light of seven days, in the day that the LORD bindeth up the breach of his people, and healeth the stroke of their wound.

Why does light increase? It is because scientifically speaking, we know the sun is going to get larger and larger until one day it burns up the earth.

I have a different take on these scriptures

Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem."
This is exactly who we have in Jerusalem today, in part. This is part of the parable of the fig tree, for the people we refer to as "the Jews", are a mixture of the tribes of Judah, and Benjamin, mixed with the bad figs, called the "Kenites". These Kenites, though they are called "of Israel", they are not but of the offspring of Cain. They are of their father the Devil, yet they try to represent themselves as God's chosen people. The Kenites are not the Arabs nor the Palestinians, for the Arabs are of Abraham, and the Kenites are not. So we see here that this prophecy is concerning the time of the end when Judah has returned to Jerusalem. Friend this chapter is directed to current events of our days.
Isaiah 2:2"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."
This is prophetic, and pertains to the Savior because He is there. We can read in Revelation 21 as to how this will come to pass. On that final day of this earth age, Jesus Christ shall come to earth to establish His Millennium kingdom, and the kings and queens of the Gentile nations shall come to Jerusalem to worship.
Revelation 21:21 "And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gates was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass."
Revelation 21:22 "And I saw no Temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the Temple of it."
Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."
Revelation 21:24 "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it."
"Mountains" is a word meaning "nations". However, the "mount of God" is "mount Moriah"; "Moriah" in the Hebrew tongue means "chosen by God". God chose the place. That is the place of the Temple mount to this day.
Isaiah 2:3 "And many people shall go and say, "come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the Lord, to the house of the God of Jacob; and He will teach us of His ways, and we will walk in His paths:" for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the Lord from Jerusalem."
The "house of God of Jacob" means all the natural seed, meaning both the house of Israel and the house of Judah. These people are all the tribes of Israel that came from the twelve sons of Jacob.This is speaking of the Millennium age, for Israel and Judah will not be joined in this earth age. This is speaking of the time Ezekiel wrote about in Ezekiel chapters forty to forty four. There is more prophecy in the Old Testament then in all the New Testament.Notice what is taught at this time, it is the law, and the Word of God.
Isaiah 2:4 "And He shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning hooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more."
This is the when the true time of world peace comes into being. This statement is eternal and it also refers to when our Lord and savior Jesus Christ returns to this earth. Some get a little worried over that time when Satan is released a short season to try those that must be tested in the Millennium age, however you don't have to worry about that time, for God himself is going to destroy Satan and those that fall for him at that time. This will be the same as it will be in that great battles of Armageddon and Hamon-gog; it will be God that does the destruction of His enemies.
This is the verse that is written on the plaque at the United Nation building in New York City, and that is the stated purpose of the United Nations, However their adgenda is quite the opposite. They are a political arm [power] that is trying to bring peace to the world through a new world political order, and that just will not come to pass. They are trying through their many agencies to bring the control of all the nations of the earth under their adgenda, and they set the rules for all the peoples of the earth. This political power will fall shortly, and from it will come a new religious system that all the world will sign on with, and it will be Satan himself that will mount the throne in Jerusalem and declare himself God.
The time of peace is in the Millennium age, when God's Word states there will be no more war, however, the time of the one world religious system will come before the coming of Christ and the start of the Millennium age. This is the age of the flesh, and in the Millennium age there will be no person living in their flesh bodies, for we will all be changed into our incorruptable bodies at the sounding of the seventh and last trump.
I Corinthians 15:50 "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
"Corruption" is your flesh body that is in a state of constant state of decay and aging. It is open to sickness and deseases and is limited to seventy plus years of existance. "Incorruption" on the other hand, is the body that you will receive for the Millennium age to last for the entire thousand years of the age of the kingdom of Jesus Christ, before Satan is released again.
I Corinthians 15:51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"
Did you get that mystery Paul is telling us? The mystery is that a time is coming when all the people on the face of the earth will not die but their flesh bodies shall be changed. Changed not raptured!
I Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
Paul is telling us that when the last trumpet sounds, the seventh trumpet, all of the dead, [spiritually dead] and in their flesh bodies shall be changed instantly into their incorruptible bodies. Not only will the spiritual lost souls be changed out of their flesh bodies, but the Elect and those sealed by God in the time of the great deception will be changed also. Friend, the age of the flesh is over.
We know that this is not refering to our relatives that have passed away and their corps laid rest in the gound, for instantly upon death their souls went to be with the Lord, as recorded in Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it."
I Corinthians 15:53 "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
I Corinthians 15:54 "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."
The elect and the saved put on the incorruptible and immortal bodies at the time of the coming of Jesus Christ at the seventh trumpet, however all those that in ignorance worshipped the Antichrist Satan, and took on his name and number and worshipped the image of the beast in their flesh bodies will have to prove themselves by their work over the thousand years time of the Millennium age. Then they will be saved not by faith and grace, but by their works. Friend it is important that you know the difference between the first christ who is Satan the Antichrist, and the true Christ who is Jesus Christ, our Messiah and redeemer. Both will have supernatural powers, and both will look alike, only one is a fake and one is the real thing. If you are set up to being taken by the first, then you have already received the mark of the beast, for his coming will be in our generation. Jesus warned us of that in Matthew 24:32-34.
The generation that sees the parable of the fig tree come to pass; the generation that sees the reestablishing of the both the good and bad figs [Judah and the Kenites] back in Jerusalem, and Palestine, is the generation of the parable of the fig tree.
Matthew 24:34 "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these thing be fulfilled.
Friend, every prophecy concerning Satan the Antichrist and his one world system will be fulfilled, including the abomination of desolation, in our generation and you will witness it. Do you have the eyes to see and the understanding to know the prophecies as they take place on your television screens. You had better, or you will be deceived.
Isaiah 2:5 "O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the Lord."
When by faith in Jesus Christ you repent of your sins in His name, you become children of the day, not night.
I Thessalonians 5:1 "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you."
I Thessalonians 5:2 "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as the thief in the night."
Satan is that thief that comes to earth, and the elect and sealed of the Lord know exactly what to expect.
I Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they shall say, "Peace and safety;" then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
I Thessalonians 5:4 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."
I Thessalonians 5:5 "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."
The thief comes in the night to rob you, however when you are a child of the day you can not be robbed [deceived] out of your heritage as a son or daughter of God. When the thief, Satan, comes to earth in his disguise as the Messiah you know him for what he is; a fake. When you are aware of the events of the coming Satan, he will not deceive you, and he cannot take your inheritance from you. Do you walk in the light? The light is the truth from God's Word. That truth will guide your way.
Isaiah 2:6 "Therefore Thou hast forsaken Thy people the house of Jacob, because they be replenished from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the children of strangers."
This is in reference to the house of Jacob [Israel], the christian nations and people of today. "They be repenished from the east, and are soothsayers..." is pointing to the fact that what is of God has been replaced with the heathen religious ideas and doctrines from the eastern religions. Christianity today, is being redefined as the religious leaders accept the ideas taught in eastern religious thought and make those ideas part of Christianity. From TM which is from the Hindu religion, to the idea of the precepts of phychology, which come from the twelve precepts of Buddha; we see the way of the Tao dealing with positive and negative forces, and Confucianism which developes it religion out of sayings of the Chineese philosopher, Confucius: Christainity today is taking a little from here and a little from there to form its traditions and drift away from the Word of God. God is saying through Isaiah that this is exactly as it will be in the latter days.
After time has passed with these eastern thoughts filtering into our churches, people start to believe that these religions did come from God, and they become a part of those abominations. One prime example of this is the promotion of easter eggs at Easter time; This was the celebration of sexual orgy rites at the feast of Ishtar celebration. Somehow Christians have made this a part of Passover time, and brought in the feast of Ishtar to substitute it for the Passover time of Christ. This orgy went on in the grove of oaks, and thus comes the hunt for the eggs. They do this in ignorance, just as they use the positive thinking, the sayings of Confucius, the act of TM [transidental meditation], and all the other ritual forms of eastern religions to make their services seem more religious. These acts are all insults to our Lord and Savior, for they are using substitutes for doing things God's way.
Isaiah 2:7 "Their land also is full of silver and gold, neither is there any end of their treasures; their land is also full of horses, neither is there any end of their chariots;"
Everywhere you look, all you hear and see is their prosperity. Their chariots are their buggies that you ride in, and there is no end to their chariots. Amongst the major car manufacturing companies, millions a year are cranked out, and there seems to be someone wating to take them when they come off the assembly line. Go to an overpass of any major city at quitting time, and the streams of cars seem to have no end. Friend, do you think all that wealth, power and chariots can save them?
Isaiah 2:8 "Their land also is full of idols; they worship the work of their own hands, that which their own fingers have made:"
In the Hebrew, the word used for "idols" means "nothings". Take a look at how a Christian looks upon his new car, or home and all the little things that are done out of love for it. You worked with your fingers to get the things, and when you have them in your possession, they become an idol to you. Today it is more important to take care of your property and move on to the next better house, car or boat then to spend time in God's Word. Then take a look at that person as they drive through the neighborhood in their new chariot, or pass the shore line in their new boat. Their pride busts out all-over, and that is how they want to be remembered.
You work all your life to pay for those things of pride, and you in turn see to it that it is well taken care of, while little things of your spiritual life are allowed to drift away, and the weeds move into your spiritual side of life until your neighbors have no idea in the world that you even claim to be a Christian. In the eternity all your wealth of this flesh age will get you exactly what the word "idols" is in the Hebrew; "nothing".
When you are driving in cold weather areas and the street crews put the salt on the road, it doesn't take long to see the decaying rust eating away at your nice new car. Before long your work of worship becomes an embarrassment, and it is time to trade for a new idol, piece of nothing. Do you see what God meant in Isaiah 1:25, when He said your silver is dross if you are not careful
Isaiah 2:9 "And the mean man boweth down, and the great man humbleth himself: therefore forgive them not."
In other words, these men bow in degradation to their idols that they have worked for with their own hands, and those things have become the most important things to them. There is nothing wrong with having houses, cars boats, or any thing else, as long as it is from God's blessings. A rich man need never apologize for gaining wealth God's way. Through hard work and careful planning, putting God first in their life and remembering that the tithe is the Lords, the rest is for you to spend as you please to your enjoyment and needs. This is God's blessings, and you owe an apology to no one, and those asking for it show their ignorance to His Word.
However the man or woman that works all the time, twenty four hours a day to run his business and has no time for God, that is a fool. If that fool would have taken an hour out of his schedule to operate his business according to God's law, he would have time and wealth, because God would be blessing both him and his business. Those that say they can do it all themselves, just keep on huffing and puffing right into the grave.
The alternative is to turn it over to the Lord, and place God first in your life, then watch the Lord kick the rocks out of the path of your business. God's counsel is fool-proof. It take the fool out of us, and decisions based on His Word are wise decisions. The man that knows the future can succeed in any business.
Isaiah 2:10 "Enter into the rock and hide thee in the dust, for fear of the Lord, and for the glory of His majesty."
This "rock" is a lower case rock. If you are living and planning your life around self, that is exactly how you will be living. Jesus Christ is returning, and when He returns, you will be trying to hide from His face with shame.
When Jesus came that first time, they made fun of him, spat on him, beat and whipped Him and then nailed Jesus to the cross. When He comes the second time Jesus will come in all majesty and glory, and He will bring the wrath of Almighty God with Him to shake this old world to the point of destroying all forms of idolatry. Anything you can hold dear and set before God will be gone and done away with, even that flesh body that you take so many hours to beautify. Jesus is coming back with a rod of iron, as KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS, and he will avenge and rid this earth of all idolatry.
Remember from Numbers 24:21 that this is where the little Kenites like to be, hiding in nests of the rock.

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Originally Posted by n2thelight

I have a different take on these scriptures

Isaiah 2:1 The word that Isaiah the son of Amoz saw concerning Judah and Jerusalem."
This is exactly who we have in Jerusalem today, in part. This is part of the parable of the fig tree, for the people we refer to as "the Jews", are a mixture of the tribes of Judah, and Benjamin, mixed with the bad figs, called the "Kenites". These Kenites, though they are called "of Israel", they are not but of the offspring of Cain. They are of their father the Devil, yet they try to represent themselves as God's chosen people. The Kenites are not the Arabs nor the Palestinians, for the Arabs are of Abraham, and the Kenites are not. So we see here that this prophecy is concerning the time of the end when Judah has returned to Jerusalem. Friend this chapter is directed to current events of our days.

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Israel still are God's chosen people, that is, the first nation God revealed Himself to. That will never change.

The parable of the fig tree is pertaining to the fact that Israel should be growing in Christ but it does not for it has forsaken the Messiah, but when Christ returns in Person, a remnant of Israel will receive him. It has nothing to do with the Kenites per se.

Kenites - smiths, the name of a tribe inhabiting the desert lying between southern Palestine and the mountains of Sinai. Jethro was of this tribe (Judg. 1:16). He is called a "Midianite" (Num. 10:29), and hence it is concluded that the Midianites and the Kenites were the same tribe. They were wandering smiths, "the gipsies and travelling tinkers of the old Oriental world. They formed an important guild in an age when the art of metallurgy was confined to a few" (Sayce's Races, etc.). They showed kindness to Israel in their journey through the wilderness. They accompanied them in their march as far as Jericho (Judg. 1:16), and then returned to their old haunts among the Amalekites, in the desert to the south of Judah. They sustained afterwards friendly relations with the Israelites when settled in Canaan (Judg. 4:11, 17-21; 1 Sam. 27:10; 30:29). The Rechabites belonged to this tribe (1 Chr. 2:55) and in the days of Jeremiah (35:7-10) are referred to as following their nomad habits. Saul bade them depart from the Amalekites (1 Sam. 15:6) when, in obedience to the divine commission, he was about to "smite Amalek." And his reason is, "for ye showed kindness to all the children of Israel when they came up out of Egypt." Thus "God is not unrighteous to forget the kindnesses shown to his people; but they shall be remembered another day, at the farthest in the great day, and recompensed in the resurrection of the just" (M. Henry's Commentary). They are mentioned for the last time in Scripture in 1 Sam. 27:10; comp. 30:20.

Amalekite is a member of an ancient nomadic people of Canaan said in the Bible to be descendants of Esau's grandson Amalek. A nomadic tribe of uncertain origin, which occupied the peninsula of Sinai and the wilderness intervening between the southern hill-ranges of Palestine and the border of Egypt. (Numbers 13:29; 1 Samuel 15:7; 27:8) Their wealth consisted in flocks and herds. Mention is made of a "town" (1 Samuel 15:5) but their towns could have been little more than stations or nomadic enclosures. The Amalekites first came in contact with the Israelites at Rephidim, but were signally defeated. (Exodus 17:8-16) In union with the Canaanites they again attacked the Israelites on the borders of Palestine, and defeated them near Hormah. (Numbers 14:45) Saul undertook an expedition against them. (1 Samuel 14:48) Their power was thenceforth broken, and they degenerated into a horde of banditti. Their destruction was completed by David. (1 Samuel 30:1-17)

In the matter of the Palestinians, referring to recent developments, know that the true Palestinians are the Israelites. Arabs more specifically are of the "wild men" which are of Ishmael.

Isaiah 2 is concerning the Messianic Kingdom on Earth. The millennial reign of Christ with His overcomer believers is concurrent with the Messianic Kingdom. Though the nation of Israel will not reign as kings and priests as will overcomer believers. Note that anyone can be an overcomer believer, including Jews and Arabs or from any nation.

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Originally Posted by n2thelight

Isaiah 2:2"And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the Lord's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it."
This is prophetic, and pertains to the Savior because He is there. We can read in Revelation 21 as to how this will come to pass. On that final day of this earth age, Jesus Christ shall come to earth to establish His Millennium kingdom, and the kings and queens of the Gentile nations shall come to Jerusalem to worship.
Revelation 21:21 "And the twelve gates were twelve pearls: every several gates was of one pearl: and the street of the city was pure gold, as it were transparent glass."
Revelation 21:22 "And I saw no Temple therein: for the Lord God Almighty and the Lamb are the Temple of it."
Revelation 21:23 "And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof."
Revelation 21:24 "And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their glory and honour into it."
"Mountains" is a word meaning "nations". However, the "mount of God" is "mount Moriah"; "Moriah" in the Hebrew tongue means "chosen by God". God chose the place. That is the place of the Temple mount to this day.

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You skipped over the millennial kingdom which is Revelation 20. Revelation 21 is not the millennial kingdom, but it is the new city and new earth after the millennial kingdom. Anyone can reign with Christ who is an overcomer believer in the millennium (Rev. 20.2-7), including Jews or Gentiles. It depends on the person to receive this reward. First they must be saved, then they must overcometh as mentioned in Rev. 2 & 3.

In the new earth, there are those who live outside the new city who will come to the new city to receive renewal because they will still have bodies of flesh and blood. Though there is no sin, there is still weakness. Those inside the new city have resurrected bodies and would come from this dispensation, the OT period and the millennium, if they were not transferred livingly at the last generation of the millennium.

Isaiah 2.4 speaks of the millennial peace: "nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more" just like in Rev. 20.3: "that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled".

Generally speaking, the OT doesn't look to the eternity of the future in the new city. It only takes into view the millennial kingdom on earth, e.g. Isaiah 2. While the Old Jerusalem on Earth exists during the millennial kingdom, the New Jerusalem can not come down all the way. Only when the Old Earth is burnt up and the Old Jerusalem is gone, will the New Earth receive completed the New Jerusalem come down from heaven. It will take the 1000 years to construct the New City on the New Earth.

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Originally Posted by n2thelight

In the Millennium age there will be no person living in their flesh bodies, for we will all be changed into our incorruptable bodies at the sounding of the seventh and last trump.
I Corinthians 15:50 "Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption."
"Corruption" is your flesh body that is in a state of constant state of decay and aging. It is open to sickness and deseases and is limited to seventy plus years of existance. "Incorruption" on the other hand, is the body that you will receive for the Millennium age to last for the entire thousand years of the age of the kingdom of Jesus Christ, before Satan is released again.
I Corinthians 15:51 "Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,"
Did you get that mystery Paul is telling us? The mystery is that a time is coming when all the people on the face of the earth will not die but their flesh bodies shall be changed. Changed not raptured!
I Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."
Paul is telling us that when the last trumpet sounds, the seventh trumpet, all of the dead, [spiritually dead] and in their flesh bodies shall be changed instantly into their incorruptible bodies. Not only will the spiritual lost souls be changed out of their flesh bodies, but the Elect and those sealed by God in the time of the great deception will be changed also. Friend, the age of the flesh is over.
We know that this is not refering to our relatives that have passed away and their corps laid rest in the gound, for instantly upon death their souls went to be with the Lord, as recorded in Ecclesiastes 12:7 "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God Who gave it."
I Corinthians 15:53 "For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality."
I Corinthians 15:54 "So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory."
The elect and the saved put on the incorruptible and immortal bodies at the time of the coming of Jesus Christ at the seventh trumpet, however all those that in ignorance worshipped the Antichrist Satan, and took on his name and number and worshipped the image of the beast in their flesh bodies will have to prove themselves by their work over the thousand years time of the Millennium age. Then they will be saved not by faith and grace, but by their works. Friend it is important that you know the difference between the first christ who is Satan the Antichrist, and the true Christ who is Jesus Christ, our Messiah and redeemer. Both will have supernatural powers, and both will look alike, only one is a fake and one is the real thing. If you are set up to being taken by the first, then you have already received the mark of the beast, for his coming will be in our generation. Jesus warned us of that in Matthew 24:32-34.

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During the consummation of this age, those who are resurrected are the saved. Those who return with Christ to reign over the nations are the saved who also are overcomer believers. All the nations from the Tribulation that remain are transferred livingly into the millennial kingdom with bodies of flesh and blood. The millennial kingdom is for the purpose of the Son of Man to return to walk on earth for 1000 years, reign from the Temple in Jerusalem, and prepare for the New City in the New Earth in eternity future.

Matt. 25.31-46 talks about these good nations and bad nations. The bad nations will cease to exist, and the good nations will continue into the millennial kingdom with Israel at the center and people all over the world will come to Jerusalem to pay homage. There will be no money in the millennial kingdom. Animal sacrifices will not be instuted for the sacrifice will be taking the time to come to Jerusalem to visit.

You are expected to live 100+ years in the millennial kingdom, but if you sin, you will live not as long. Still each person must believe individually in the millennium to be saved. There will be the class of the overcomer believers reigning with resurrected spiritual physical bodies and all the nations with their peoples having physical bodies.

That we shall all be changed is speaking to Christians who will receive newly clothed spiritual bodies. The resurrection of the saved is separated from the resurrection of the unsaved by the 1000 years.

When you die, you go to hades, to rest, to wait for resurrection. 1 Thess. 4.14-18 says we will be resurrected together. The spirit goes to the Lord means giving up of life in the flesh, but while in hades awaiting resurrection, your spirit and soul await a newly clothed body.

To have a changed body is through resurrection and rapture. To be resurrected is to have a changed body. To come before the throne or meet Christ in the air is to be raptured. The former precedes the latter.

Anyone who dies and did not get saved, does not get another chance. All they have is to wait like the rich man to be resurrected at the end of the 1000 years to GWT and then cast into hell. Since no soul can cease to exist, the unsaved are eternally separated from God.

The generation referred to in Matt. 24.34 is every generation as long as this wickedness continues.

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Originally Posted by n2thelight

Isaiah 2:5 "O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the Lord."
When by faith in Jesus Christ you repent of your sins in His name, you become children of the day, not night.
I Thessalonians 5:1 "But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you."
I Thessalonians 5:2 "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as the thief in the night."
Satan is that thief that comes to earth, and the elect and sealed of the Lord know exactly what to expect.
I Thessalonians 5:3 "For when they shall say, "Peace and safety;" then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape."
I Thessalonians 5:4 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief."
I Thessalonians 5:5 "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness."
The thief comes in the night to rob you, however when you are a child of the day you can not be robbed [deceived] out of your heritage as a son or daughter of God. When the thief, Satan, comes to earth in his disguise as the Messiah you know him for what he is; a fake. When you are aware of the events of the coming Satan, he will not deceive you, and he cannot take your inheritance from you. Do you walk in the light? The light is the truth from God's Word. That truth will guide your way.

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In 1 Thess. 5.2,4 you know perfectly the day the Lord cometh because His parousia would have already commenced commensurate with Daniel's last week starting and the first rapture having taken place to the throne at Rev. 7.9. Many people will be missing. You can literally count down the days for it will be 42 months for the Great Tribulation before Christ steps down on the mount of olives (Zech. 14.4). But in Matt. 24.42, you don't know when He is coming, so you are called to be watchful. Some will be taken, some left (vv.41,42). Both the taken and the left are saved.

The child of God has the eternal blessings of God, but he may not have the reward to reign in the millennial kingdom (Rev. 20.4). The thief comes to steal the best, so if you are not watchful, your house may be broken into. Stand at the door prepared to be one of those who are taken at first rapture and not one of those who are left to pass through the Tribulation, the time of testing. Do you keep the conduct of Matthew 5-7? Do you keep His patient word (Rev. 3.10)? Are you watchful and prayerful (Luke 21.36)? The promise of escaping the hour of trial to be raptured to the throne (Rev. 7.9) is based on readiness. If you are ready to be received, God will receive you. If you are not ready, you shall pass through the Tribulation whether saved or not. If you are saved, though you pass through the Tribulation, you still yet may overcome in Christ to receive the reward of reigning with Christ during the millennium by returning with Him as the holy myriads (Jude 14,15).

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Isaiah 2:6 "Therefore Thou hast forsaken Thy people the house of Jacob, because they be replenished from the east, and are soothsayers like the Philistines, and they please themselves in the children of strangers."
This is in reference to the house of Jacob [Israel], the christian nations and people of today. "They be repenished from the east, and are soothsayers..." is pointing to the fact that what is of God has been replaced with the heathen religious ideas and doctrines from the eastern religions. Christianity today, is being redefined as the religious leaders accept the ideas taught in eastern religious thought and make those ideas part of Christianity. From TM which is from the Hindu religion, to the idea of the precepts of phychology, which come from the twelve precepts of Buddha; we see the way of the Tao dealing with positive and negative forces, and Confucianism which developes it religion out of sayings of the Chineese philosopher, Confucius: Christainity today is taking a little from here and a little from there to form its traditions and drift away from the Word of God. God is saying through Isaiah that this is exactly as it will be in the latter days.
After time has passed with these eastern thoughts filtering into our churches, people start to believe that these religions did come from God, and they become a part of those abominations. One prime example of this is the promotion of easter eggs at Easter time; This was the celebration of sexual orgy rites at the feast of Ishtar celebration. Somehow Christians have made this a part of Passover time, and brought in the feast of Ishtar to substitute it for the Passover time of Christ. This orgy went on in the grove of oaks, and thus comes the hunt for the eggs. They do this in ignorance, just as they use the positive thinking, the sayings of Confucius, the act of TM [transidental meditation], and all the other ritual forms of eastern religions to make their services seem more religious. These acts are all insults to our Lord and Savior, for they are using substitutes for doing things God's way.

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There is no such thing as Christian nations, for the Church and the state are always separate. It is true already millennia ago Israel lost its rights before God and the temple was destroyed at 70 AD. I agree with you that these various so-called Christian holidays are not Christian at all. Jesus was born in Sept-Oct, not in Dec.

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Remember from Numbers 24:21 that this is where the little Kenites like to be, hiding in nests of the rock.

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Though the Kenites received the favor of God for awhile in how they treated Israel, it did not last. People have their beautiful homes which have gone up 50 to 100% in the last 10 years in USA, but the great reckoning is coming. Ship merchants around the globe will cry in tears they won't be able to sell their products to USA anymore.

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"There is no such thing as Christian nations, for the Church and the state are always separate. It is true already millennia ago Israel lost its rights before God and the temple was destroyed at 70 AD. I agree with you that these various so-called Christian holidays are not Christian at all. Jesus was born in Sept-Oct, not in Dec"

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So who is Israel?

There has been much confusion over who is Israel and who are Christians in regards to the end-time prophecies in the book of Revelation. Much of the confusion is due in no small part to the false teaching of a Rapture doctrine wherein they 'need' the Christian Church to be gone after {Rev 4:1} for support of their errant theories. And if they were to accept that the 144,000 'sealed of Israel' {Rev chp.7} are not Jews but rather Christians from the 10 lost tribes of Israel then their Rapture theory washes of it's foundation of sand.

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So who is Israel?

There has been much confusion over who is Israel and who are Christians in regards to the end-time prophecies in the book of Revelation. Much of the confusion is due in no small part to the false teaching of a Rapture doctrine wherein they 'need' the Christian Church to be gone after {Rev 4:1} for support of their errant theories. And if they were to accept that the 144,000 'sealed of Israel' {Rev chp.7} are not Jews but rather Christians from the 10 lost tribes of Israel then their Rapture theory washes of it's foundation of sand.

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The Church doesn't believe we are raptured at 4.1 or anywhere near 4.1. That is your mistaken assumption of what the Church believes. Christians also believe Rev. 7.1-8 is the nation of Israel, not Christians, so again you accuse falsely. This shows you are not right in your assessments and accusations and are in need of repentance. The first rapture is seen at Rev. 7.9 (see Rev. 3.10,12.5; Luke 21.36; Matt. 24.42) and the later harvest is at 14.14-16 commensurate with 11.15 (see 1 Cor. 15.23,50-52; 1 Thess. 4.15-17).

And Israel is the first nation God revealed Himself to. This will never change. They were always the first. They are the fig tree those who are saved have been grafted into: "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer [is] nigh" (Matt. 24.32). When Israel looks as though it is soon to receive Christ at His near return, then the millennial summer is near.

v.32 The word “now” marks the beginning of the second part. Since the Lord gives this part of His prophecy on the Mount of Olives—a place where there are many fig trees —He quite naturally could use the fig tree as an illustration. “When her branch is now become tender”—This speaks of the return of life. “And putteth forth its leaves”—This means the manifestation of life. The fig tree represents the Jews (Jer. 24.2,5,8). Earlier the Lord had cursed the fig tree which possessed only leaves but had no fruit. In reality the curse was upon the Jews who possessed the outward rituals but had no reality. “Summer” is the season of growth as winter is the season of withering and death. In the summer, life shows its greatest vigor, the air is warm, and the days are bright. It is a golden season, and therefore it stands for the kingdom. The Jews today are in the winter time. Winter points to tribulation, particularly the Great Tribulation. Spring speaks of rapture (see S.S. 2.10-14); summer speaks of the kingdom (see Luke 21.30-31). In Luke 21.29-30 we have the words “and all the trees”—which phrase represents the nations (see Daniel 4.10-17 and Judges 9.8-15). When “all the trees ... now shoot forth” (Luke 21.29-30), this is a signifying that nationalism will have been greatly developed among many peoples and nations.

It makes me very sad to hear that you don't want to be raptured like an Enoch or an Elijah or like Christ Himself was. So shall you not be raptured during the last week consummation of this age and will pass through the Tribulation. Whether you take the mark of the beast I do not know, but if God lets you into the millennial kingdom, you will yet have to believe individually.