Advice for Atheists to Wake-up!

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02-16-2009, 05:11 PM
Churchwork

Advice for Atheists to Wake-up!

Advice for Atheists to Wake-Up!

1. You have no naturalistic explanation for the eyewitness accounts of the resurrected Jesus, otherwise you could show it.

2. You can't prove anything in nature to be uncaused, otherwise you would have done so.

3. Fine tuning requires an Intelligent Designer, as you can't get a trillion monkeys with a trillion typewriters to produce even one Shakespeare play, get the ink and paper to organize itself into a newspaper, can't get a single-celled organism to spontaneously generate, and the odds against life on another planet are astronomical.

4. Preponderance of trillions of things with causes are overwhelming, so abide in this evidence, otherwise you are just shutting your mind down.

5. Since God is proven, Hell is required, because you can't cease to exist, so you admit you are going to Hell, because you don't want salvation. God gives you this choice. He wants to be with those who receive Him, not those who don't.

6. The Bible is the proof proving its case which remains unchallenged so it proves the proof, the Bible, to be true! By this proof, the Bible is the Word of God God which is given for us to get to know Him better, to have fellowship with by the Holy Spirit and prophesies things to come for our comfort.

7. The exponential progression of conscience is clearly shown in nature. It's trend has no indication of changing these past six thousand years. Therefore, it is a natural law and proves reality cannot have an eternity of the past of cause and effects, for mankind would not still be sinning to the extent we still do, having had more than enough time approximating to that supposed eternity of the past.

At this point all you can do remain evasive and coy in saying you can disprove these proofs without actually ever doing so.
03-12-2009, 02:10 PM
DD2014

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Originally Posted by Churchwork

1. You have no naturalistic explanation for the eyewitness accounts of the resurrected Jesus, otherwise you could show it.

Go online and look for "UFO sighting" a list of evidence including videos and current eye witnesses accounts will pop up. (not from people 2000 years ago). Now what was the last video taped sighting of Jesus or God? Or mass sighting? Do you see why I would belive in UFO's before God? More people see UFO's then God.

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2. You can't prove anything in nature to be uncaused, otherwise you would have done so.

But you can't prove what or who caused it so why bring it up?

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3. Fine tuning requires an Intelligent Designer, as you can't get a trillion monkeys with a trillion typewriters to produce even one Shakespeare play, get the ink and paper to organize itself into a newspaper, can't get a single-celled organism to spontaneously generate, and the odds against life on another planet are astronomical.

If you are talking about evolution that is not how it works, you should do some research into the subject before misusing it to try and prove a point

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4. Preponderance of trillions of things with causes are overwhelming, so abide in this evidence, otherwise you are just shutting your mind down.

That goes right back to you not being able to prove what caused it and why.

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5. Since God is proven, Hell is required, because you can't cease to exist, so you admit you are going to Hell, because you don't want salvation. God gives you this choice. He wants to be with those who receive Him, not those who don't.

You still have yet to prove this beyond a resonable doubt

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6. The Bible is the proof proving its case which remains unchallenged so it proves the proof, the Bible, to be true! By this proof, the Bible is the Word of God God which is given for us to get to know Him better, to have fellowship with by the Holy Spirit and prophesies things to come for our comfort.

Well I know the gosples are proven to be writen 30-100 years after Jesus's death. This is like the first autobiography of JFK hits the store today. You could not accuratly write about all the details of something or someone that long after the fact.

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7. The exponential progression of conscience is clearly shown in nature. It's trend has no indication of changing these past six thousand years. Therefore, it is a natural law and proves reality cannot have an eternity of the past of cause and effects, for mankind would not still be sinning to the extent we still do, having had more than enough time approximating to that supposed eternity of the past.

The problem with that is you cannot use sin to prove that a God exists because sin is a idea not a proof. If a sin can be open to interpretation then it is not a fact but an opinion. If it is an opinion that one "sin" could mean a different thing to each person.

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At this point all you can do remain evasive and coy in saying you can disprove these proofs without actually ever doing so.

Well that is your opinion.
03-13-2009, 12:54 AM
Churchwork

Why would you compare a UFO citing that can easily be explained away by some naturalistic phenomenon off in the distance?

Since the uncreated is proven to exist because nature can't cause itself we know the intelligent designer is the cause and that's who we are talking about.

Before evolution can take place you need replicating life to first exist, which is mathematically impossible since there has not been enough interatomic interactions in the history of the universe to produce even 200 amino acids into one protein molecule.

Since you can't find a naturalistic explanation to explain away the data for the resurrection of Jesus, you are unwittingly admitting you are going to Hell.

You didn't produce any evidence to suggest the gospel accounts were written at such late dates. There is no reason for you not to think they were written soon as these events were happening. What you have to confront are the 8 things most skeptical scholars agree on about the resurrection claim.

Sin is real, for you would not need jails if sin did not exist. Therefore, it is universally agreed sin is real and as well, our consciences exhibiting an exponential improvement.