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Originally Posted by serenitygrace
Hello Troy,
I do believe in God's word on Hell, not man's interpretation.....
Since you do not believe Hell is an eternal separation from God you do not agree with God's Word in Rev. 20 that all the unsaved are thrown into hell to be eternally separated. God will not annihilate your soul.
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I also believe in tongues, because I speak it, I have received it, this is what is also in the bible. It is also not without understanding, knowledge or wisdom. Nor is it without Him leading it. I am aware of the teachings that are around about tongues, and also the prejudice usually coming from people with tongue issues and ignorance. We also know, understand not all that claim, have ...... That is why we trust, rely and have faith in Him, we surrender to Him and He reveals, cause their is much false teachings and misinterpretations.
There is no gibberish babble in the Bible so what you received is not Biblical tongues. Tongues is with understanding the Bible said to the one who speaks other languages given by God. God gives the gift of tongues so He authorizes it to speak other languages. You have tongue issues, which is your prejudice and ignorance altering the Word. God does not gift the gift of languages to everyone. I for one have no gifting to speak any language other than English to share the Word of God. If you want to prove you are living a lie, ask 5 interpreters to interpret your gibberish babble, and you will find always you will get 5 different answers.
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We also know what Jesus says about Tongues....and this is what we follow
Jesus never approved of gibberish babble.
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And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues. Mark 16:17
Amen. No gibberish babble!
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The gift of His tongues is a gift from God and it is for the Lord's purposes that it is so...and He gives it to who He gives it to.
We also follow Paul, when He says we pray it in the Spirit and we pray it in understanding we sing it in the Spirit and we sing it in Understanding, He directs this....U can read this in 1 Cor 14
The purpose is to spread the Word of God to other nations of other languages for others! Not for self per se. When we pray in the spirit and we pray with understanding (in the soul), nothing here is said about gibberish babble. Do you see how you have made up this cultic teaching devised in the 2nd century under montanism?
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/montanism.htm
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I do accept that we are apart of His Body, His Soul and His Spirit, if we r in His, then we r in His Body, His Soul and in His Spirit. I don't believe in the soulish interpretations brought forth by people. But what He reveals? Ghost means soul, and His soul is our centre, especially if we live in John 14:20. The Ghost and the soul of a person r the centre of the life that comes out of it, and the Spirit is the breath and the movement that comes out of the cente of God in the heavenly....and His life flows out of this....How can those with the soul of God, being the Holy Ghost through them be self serving? There is only one true Body, Soul and Spirit, and that is His.
You should not be apart from God, for you should be with and for God, not apart from His body. God does not have a soul per say. Only man has a soul made in God's image. Men uniquely have a soul. Gibberish babble is soulish, so you are soulish saved or soulish unsaved. This comes from self, confusing emotion for spirit, by altering the Word. The Holy Ghost is the Spirit of God, not soul. His Spirit indwells our spirit and Spirit makes contact with spirit, not soul to spirit. His Spirit is God's mind revealed to us intuitively, but God does not have a soul. You would have to provide evidence for this rather than merely self-declare it.
Understand where your confusion comes from in confusing the spirit of man with the soul of man. Our soul is our mind, will and emotions, while our spirit has the functions of intuition communion and conscience.
http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/spiritsoulbody.htm
God said spirit, soul and body in Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23, so your issue is with God not with me.
Understand what false tongues does, is it aims to confuse the spirit and the soul so that you walk after the soul and not the spirit since gibberish babble is a soulical abuse.
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Also what I registered with was for registration purposes, not to be broadcasted in public, u have violated privacy,and then assumed that I have certain beliefs, that u have made a wrongful assumption. Why have u done this?
All profiles are viewable to the public (except pictures - this is personal). This is a standard feature of all vbulletin forums. If you don't like it I will remove your account. Just ask. I did not assume anything. You said exactly what you believed. If I had made an assumption, you woul be able to show it rather than just self-declare it selfishly from your flesh.
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Yes we do need to be delivered, from accusatory christians, from half hearted ones, from dissenters, from christianity with error, from christianity around us that has no power, from christian cults, from people caught up in addictions, from unloving and unkind people, from error, from surrounding wordliness, from self serving people, from people making assumptions, and people who do not honour privacy, nor honour Him through His people, from govenments and churches and ministeries and forums that abuse His people that they think they are doing right when in deed they are not, also from ur behaviour of saying welcome one moment and then writing I refuse and ur assumptions are not correct, delivered from what hinders us all unnecessarily
You are welcome here, not your false teachings. Why accuse falsely sinning bearing false witness, for this is half hearted and error and without power or love. Many cults believe as do you that tongues is gibberish babble, but this is selfish and unloving and unkind, puffed up towards others. Rationalizing yourself with wordiness is ineffectual. You should repent. Your privacy is honored so why accuse falsely that it is not? You have much to be delivered from. But it is clear you can not repent.
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....I also need to be delivered and keep on being delivered from satan being a jerk, and by his dissenters that he influencers, delivered from everything that is stopping His people from being one, and His deliverance to come right on in through that He flow it through all His people,ic....so His body of Christ can be who and what they are meant to be and error can finally go and we can be fully in His Truth. Because all fall short of the Glory of God and their was only one that had no error in Him, and that is Lord Jesus Christ.
Satan is a jerk, so don't let him win your life with false tongues, for this puffed up action is pride-filled and takes your eye off of Christ for your party spirit. This divides the body of Christ and lets Satan enter the church. It is doubletongued to speak of the body life while living in this sin of false tongues that you use to selfishly stimulate your emotion and forsake your spirit. Here you fall short of the glory of God and Christ His Son for His Son never approved of this behavior, nor did He ever utter gibberish babble. Nor will He ever do so!
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I also was invited to come here by someone, and I registered because of what u wrote about, being women apostles and Mary I am glad u wrote that u r in agreement with what I wrote. If u see no truth in what I write, then this is error....but look at what I write, please and if there is any error from what I post, then look at this. Look at what I bring forth. I am also glad u r in agreement with this cause it is Him that showed me this, and if u r in agreement with that, and then say u r not in agreement because of what I registered with, then why was my registration accepted? I hope it was not with the intentions of whammying taking place.
We agree on women. We do not agree on your false tongues. This forum is not going to ban you for your sin or false tongues or for your unwillingness to repent from false tongues. I am here to help you. However, if you become belligerent and obstinate to the point where you need to be banned, you will be. I did not want you to think that just because I agreed with you about women that that meant I agreed with you about your false tongues, your rejection of Jesus on Hell, and your rejection of our having a spirit, soul and body. Many people think they are right about things about 5 things just because they are right about 1 thing. It does not follow.
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Also if there is not agreement the earthly witness is not operating some where....for in the earthly witness we have agreement. I am going to pray about this, Troy let us go into prayer in Him together, for fellowship can not take place without His earthly and Heavenly witness, that is His true oneness fellowship, and we need to keep on praying for His people about this.
Amen.
What we need to be focusing on is His love, His reconciliation, that we all be one, that is John 17 and we need to be apart of His solution and not the problem. We need to keep on focusing on Him and take our eyes off the world and their errors and look upon the one that is without error. If u welcome me, then welcome me, but don't go saying that u r refusing or refuting me because of this what u think I am believing, ask me straight out. Otherwise it is a blessing and a cursing in one breathe taking place, Do u really want to be blessing and cursing me in one breath?
I do not refuse you as a person per se, but I do reject your false tongues and the other false teachings you harbor. I would be sinning if I did not. I do not curse you, so do not blame me, but you curse yourself, for it is you who has take upon yourself of your own volition these false teachings. Take responsibility for yourself. I am praying for your repentance and humility towards the truth.
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Troy do u accept me to be here or not? Or r u going to make it difficult?
When we accept Him, we accept His people too, when we love Him, we love His people. We are His witness and He is the epistle written on our heart and in our lives.
You are making it difficult for yourself to be here; again, don't blame me for that which is untrue in your heart that you can't let go of. I accept my brothers and sisters in Christ, but when someone says they reject Hell being an eternal separation from God (calling Jesus a liar), and other items of importance, I am harkened to God's Word when He says we shall know them by their fruit. But if you can repent, then I know you are a member of the body of Christ, as well, because you can come to the truth on our tripartite being and Biblical tongues. If you can not what does that say of you, and who better to be qualified as being the tares which God said He will put the sickle to separate. The tares try to look like the wheat but they are not. If you love God, you will choose the way of the cross without puffed up things like false tongues. You will not deny the purpose of hell.
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Am I truly welcome here, did u mean this, or was this just something to write? I also noticed that you wrote your in bold letters, this is highlighting your....and it is like a seperation, it is a you and a me, not an us. In Him we have Us. Us is the body of Christ, and no man can not say to one of His people you don't belong nor are a part of, because this is for Him to decide not people. He gets to say who is in His body and where they are in that and what they do and have. Also can u not bold or put things in bold, it is like u r shouting, and r u shouting your at me?
You are welcome here. Your sins are yours alone. Know this. It is not shouting, it is pointing to you who is responsible for these sins. If I did not love you, I would not show you this. Now you should repent.
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Then shalt thou call, and the Lord shall answer; thou shalt cry, and he shall say Here I am. If thou take away from the midst of thee the yoke, the putting forth of the finger and speaking vanity.....then shall thy light rise in obscurity, and thy darkness be as the noon day. And the Lord shall guide thee....Isaiah 58:10-11
Now repent from the vanity of your false tongues, your rejecting God's purpose for hell, and your rejecting our being spirit, soul and body. If you are in Christ, will you do this for God?