• What are the Signs Jesus Says We Can Know for When He Returns?

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    Have you guys heard about these Lunar Tetrads all over the internet that tell us when Jesus returns?

    Jesus was cursing the fig tree representing Israel for not showing its leaves, symbolizing Israel has no life then Jesus said, "Now learn a lesson from the fig tree. When its branches bud and its leaves begin to sprout, you know that summer is near" (Matt. 24.32). The summer points to the millennial kingdom when Jesus reigns on earth. Israel's branches started to bud when Israel became a nation again May 14, 1948. And its leaves are sprouting again as they continue to get more land to the Euphrates River (Gen. 15.18) and in June 7, 1967 took over Jerusalem. Then Matt. 24.33 says, "In the same way, when you see all these things, you can know his return is very near, right at the door." There is nothing that suggests you can't know the day as you approach that day though of course you can't know the hour. "Very near" would be within a lifetime so within 70 to 80 years according to Ps. 90.10 so no later than 2023 or earlier. Some people suggest you can't know the day, but this only applies to believers in their day these words were spoken to or to the end of the world (Matt. 24.35-36) or prior to the time when Israel would become a nation again (1948) according to Matt. 24.32-33 as the "you can know" is dependent on when Israel is a nation again. Ezekiel prophesied on his side when Israel would become a nation again to the month of May, 1948. Daniel prophesied to when Jesus would be cut off. How very specific is God's word! Therefore, Satan must be behind the "You can't know when Jesus returns" movement. We are to be watchful if we don't know the day as still most won't know the day, but even if you do know the day, still be prepared to be received up before the Tribulation otherwise you will lose this blessing.

    Gen. 1.14 says "And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs...." And we are told before the great and terrible day of the Lord which is the Tribulation period, specifically there will be a great earthquake, a black sackcloth solar eclipse and a red blood moon in that order (Joel 2.31, Acts 2.20, Rev. 6.12). Earthquakes happen all the time, and total eclipses are not that rare so these must be of a rare kind preceding the Tribulation. Are there any clues to exactly what kind of eclipses?

    In 1949/50 there was a Lunar Tetrad in which the total eclipse occurred on passover, tabernacles, and again on passover and tabernacles over 2 years. It happened again 1967/68. The 8th time since Christ it will occur is 2014/15. The 20th century was the first time in history when two Tetrads on feasts occurred within 18 years apart. Surely this should not go unnoticed and has been placed for us in plain site to realize when Jesus returns. This Tetrad won't happen again till 2582/83 so the time is upon us. There is no rare solar eclipse around the 2582/83 Tetrad. The Temple will be built during the 8th Tetrad following when Israel became a nation after 2500 years and reclaimed Jerusalem.

    However, none of this holds much water if there is not a substantial solar eclipse just prior to the four red blood moons in 2014/15. To our surprise there is. There is a Long Hybrid, H3 Solar Eclipse, November 3, 2013. This will be the 4th time since Christ it has occurred, and it is the rarest kind of solar eclipse. It finishes off by being a total eclipse which produces that black sackcloth effect noted in Rev. 6.12. But this isn't solidified unless there is a substantial earthquake preceding the solar eclipse. And in fact, there is the earthquakes of Haiti 2010 and Japan 2011. Never in history have two great earthquakes occurred back to back of such magnitude and killed so many people and destroyed so much property. Even in their own right by themselves they are significant breaking new records.

    So there you have it, we know the Tribulation can't start before 2015 because Rev. 6.12 is before the Tribulation in keeping with Joel 2.31 and Acts 2.20. But neither can it start after 2016 because it must be completed no later than 2023. We have two 7 year periods to choose from which are 2015-2022 and 2016-2023. Is there more we can examine to determine which of these two periods is the correct one?

    Well we know the Tribulation is a 7 year period of 2,520 days like all of Daniel's sixty-nine sevens (Dan. 9.24-27) which began and ended on key holidays. And 2,520 is the smallest number divisible by all numbers from 2 to 10 so that seems like it is of some importance (a basic working unit). As an aside, Israel circled Jericho seven times on the seventh day with seven trumpets. One can say the Trumpets are the Tribulation (loud), not the Seals (Seals are the past 20 centuries opened in secret), and the first time we see any saints in 3rd heaven is in Rev. 7.9 "before the throne". This occurs before the first trumpet of the Tribulation (8.7), therefore there is a rapture before the Tribulation starts; however, it is not for the whole Church, just those in the Church who are alive who are watchful (Matt. 24.40-42), prayerful (Luke 21.36) and who keep the word of His patience (Rev. 3.10). We may include martyrs from the past 20 centuries as well as per the 5th Seal.

    As the first four feasts pertain to Jesus' first coming, the last 3 feasts deal with His second coming. The first of those last three feasts is the Feast of Trumpets which represents rapture. This agrees with Revelation 7.9 because it occurs before 8.7. The problem though is if the 2,520th day doesn't land on a special day then there is something wrong with our analysis. The 2,520th day from Feast of Trumpets in 2016 does not land on any special day in 2023. In 2015 Feast of Trumpets is Sept. 14, 2015 but again, on the 2,520th day there is no noticeable holiday...until one realizes that whenever Tisha B'Av, Av 9, falls on a Saturday it is held the day after instead. What is Tisha B'Av? This is when the 1st and 2nd Temples were destroyed-a very sad day for Israel. Is it any wonder Jesus steps down on the mount of olives just as He left (Zech. 14.4, Acts. 1.11, Rev. 1.7) on Sunday, Tisha B'Av, Aug. 7, 2022? His plan is to reign in the 3rd Temple for 1000 years. Many do not have faith to believe in this Jesus who created the universe shall return to reign with His overcomers (Matt. 25.1-13; Jude 14,15; Rev. 19.11-16, 20.4-6) over the nations (2.26) with a "rod of iron" (12.5)-this reward given only to believers who "overcometh" (chapters 2 & 3).

    Perhaps I am misunderstanding something, but this seems to be a lock solid proof to know when Jesus returns, and there is no budging on it. The exact date is confined and restricted specifically. You can't get around it. When you try to push it up it is blocked by certain constraints, and when you try to push it out farther, you're prevented by the above factors. Are there any other corroborating points? In Dan. 8.14 we are told the Temple is cleansed after 2300 days. There is, in fact, 2300 days from the 4th day inspection of the lamb, Thursday, April 21, 2016 to Aug. 7, 2022. Fascinating! Passover is April 22.

    To dedicate the lamb and red heifer, the Temple would need to be completed by April 20, 2016, the 3rd day inspection of the lamb. Some say it would take 2 years to build the Temple, others say just a couple months. If it takes up to 2 years, construction would need to begin in the year 2014 at the latest you would think.

    What are the probabilities of all this? From the year 0 AD there is a 1 in 2010 chance we could have had such amazing earthquakes right when they occurred. Since there has only been one century since Christ when there were two Tetrads that's approximately a 1 in 20 chance for two Tetrads to occur in the 20th century, 2/100 chance one of those Tetrads land on one of the two periods for Israel, and a 1/99 chance for the remaining Tetrad to land on the remaining period (a 1 in 100,000 chance altogether). There is a 1 in 700 chance the rare solar eclipse could have occurred in 2013 right where it needs to be before the 2014/15 Tetrad. There's a 1 in 7 chance Jesus would return on Sunday and a 1 in 7 chance Tisha B'Av would land on a Saturday to be commemorated the day after instead. There is a 1 in 6 chance these 3 events would occur in this precise order according to the Scriptures. And there is a 7 out of 19 chance a seven year period is exactly 2,520 days from Feast of Trumpets to Tisha B'Av when an extra month is added to the Jewish calendar. All told that's a 112 trillion to 1 probability. I would say that is more than ample evidence to know when Jesus returns and to know the signs Jesus said to watch out for for His return.

    Scholars add up the dates of people in the OT and they come to 4004 BC. Adam would have been 18 years old in 3986 BC (perhaps the age of accountability for him). There are 6,000 years or 120 Jubilees from 3986 BC to 2015 AD. So the Day of Atonement, Sept. 23, 2015 should be of great importance that year. From June 7, 1967 when Israel entered Jerusalem there are 49 sets of 7 years, 360 days each, to the Day of Atonement in 2015 (a total of 17,640 days). Wow! This is a double fulfillment of the declaration to rebuild the Temple Nisan 1, 444 BC that would be rebuilt in troublous times and take seven sets of seven to complete; then there would be 62 more sets of seven for a total of 69 sets of seven or 173,880 days that takes us to exactly Monday, Nisan 10, March 28, 33 AD (Gregorian)-the first day of the 4 day inspection of the lamb. The 4th day is Thursday, March 31, 33 AD when Jesus was captured. He died the following day on Passover, Nisan 14, April 1, 33 AD. Satan calls this day April Fool's Day. How evil Satan is!

    I was curious about when the 1260 days of the Two Witnesses Enoch and Elijah would take place. It doesn't make sense they are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, nor at the very end because it seems they are killed in Revelation 11 before the 7th trumpet rapture and resurrection takes place in Rev. 11.15. As it turns out there are exactly 1260 days from Monday, Nisan 10, April 18, 2016-the 1st day of the 4 day inspection of the lamb-to Feast of Trumpets Sept. 30, 2019. Other verses for the 7th trumpet rapture and resurrection are 1 Cor. 15.23,52; 1 Thess. 4.14-18; Rev. 14.14-16, 15.2-4. After the Great Tribulation starts (Rev. 9.1) of 42 months, there will be 5 months of the 5th trumpet (1st woe) plus a year, a month, a day, and an hour of the 6th trumpet (2nd woe) then follows the 7th trumpet rapture and resurrection which leaves 24 months till the end of the Tribulation (42 - 5 - 13 = 24). Based on these verses, the date for the final harvest would be Aug. 19, 2020 give or take a day (and this is the start of the 3rd woe or 7th trumpet). The 7th trumpet contains and pours out the 7 bowls of wrath. We are not appointed unto wrath. Even then people don't repent (9.20-21).

    From the 1260th day Aug. 7, 2022 to the 1290th day are 30 days more for Jesus to judge the nations then there are 45 days more after that to the 1335th day for Jesus to set up Israel as the center of all nations. This 1335th day would be Oct. 21, 2022 after the last 3 feasts. Tabernacles runs from Oct. 10 to 16. Next follows the last two holidays of the year on the 17th and 18th; the second of which is called Simchat Torah when Israel takes out the Torah Scroll from the Holy of Holies to read it once a year (as well as the 3 items of the Ark of the Covenant). If we apply a 4 day inspection for the Lamb before the Son of Man officially reigns in the millennial kingdom, those 4 days are Oct. 18, 19, 20, 21. That's amazing!

    What is the sign of the Son of Man in Matt. 24.30 for His return? I propose it is Jupiter in the sky in 2022 which occurs earlier in the year. It will be the closest to earth it has been in hundreds of years, visible for us to see, and the the NASA site for this occurrence, says it will sparkle with many comets hitting its surface. What a beautiful site that would be. Let us give praise to God for His soon return! Amen.