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Churchwork
04-29-2006, 07:31 PM
If you are a calvinist, do you believe that God died for the sins of the whole world (unlimited atonement) so that anyone (free-choice) made in His image (we are all made in His image) could be saved (resistible grace) by coming to the cross as a helpless sinner to receive His saving grace (conditional election) for eternal preservation?

And, if you are a calvinist, do you believe God predestinates (through unlimited atonement) by foreknowing our free-choice (conditional election) so as to walk with those out of His image that choose the cross (resistible grace) by being drawn and called for eternal preservation, not by premaking the person to choose?

His
04-30-2006, 03:36 PM
If you are a calvinist, do you believe that God died for the sins of the whole world (unlimited atonement) so that anyone (free-choice) made in His image (we are all made in His image) could be saved (resistible grace) by coming to the cross as a helpless sinner to receive His saving grace (conditional election) for eternal preservation?

And, if you are a calvinist, do you believe God predestinates (through unlimited atonement) by foreknowing our free-choice (conditional election) so as to walk with those out of His image that choose the cross (resistible grace) by being drawn and called for eternal preservation, not by premaking the person to choose?
No

Churchwork
04-30-2006, 03:43 PM
Know there is something wrong with you (http://biblocality.com/forums/showthread.php?t=826), since you have no valid reason to say No.

A calvinist believes they were totally deprave. Then they choose the cross because God gave them faith first, but not others who are going to hell. He did this they think because man is no longer made in God's image, so they have to be the premade ones God will save while there are premade ones He sends to Hell. They can't see the cause and effect from the fall to the flesh (which can't choose God) but still remaining in God's image. Instead they see only the false teaching of total depravity so they need to be premade or prepicked to come out of total depravity so they think. They just happen to be the ones predesigned that way not for hell that others are created for. This is not love and does not respect Acts 10.34.

Your other false teachings in your profile were:
- Rejecting the millennial kingdom
- God does not foreknow our free-choice (non-omniscient)
- There is no accountability of rewards for overcomers and non-overcomers in Christ
- Denying the restoration of creation after God made desolate in Gen. 1.2 due to the sin of earth's earliest inhabitants (http://www3.telus.net/trbrooks/mystery.htm): fallen lucifer, fallen angels and the creatures that became demons, now disembodied
- Not even sure about Heb. 4.12, 1 Thess. 5.23 that we have a spirit, soul and body
- Do not accept women as apostles or that Mary was born into sin
- Reject Apostle Paul travelling to localities to appoint elders to take care of them
- Not sure about the baptism of the Holy Spirit
- Not sure about the new city in the new earth
- Not sure about the distinction of God's 3 Persons

I think there is enough evidence here to show that you are not a Christian and are a fake: the unsaved tares trying to look like the saved wheat, which God said He will take His sickle to.