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John
01-13-2016, 03:26 PM
One of the most read books by Joseph Smith of 110,000 books published was a book of definition of words and the Koran it is no wonder we find Smith defining his god planet in Muslim terms.

Origin

According to Fawn Brodie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fawn_Brodie), Smith's idea of Kolob may have been derived from the "throne of God" idea found in Thomas Dick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Dick_(scientist))'s The Philosophy of a Future State,[45] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-45) which Brodie said Smith "had recently been reading" before dictating the Book of Abraham, and which "made a lasting impression" on him.[46] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-46)

Rejecting the theory that the Kolob doctrine is of 19th-century origin, some Mormon scholars have sought to link the Kolob doctrine to ancient astronomy. Gee, Hamblin & Peterson (2006) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#CITEREFGeeHamblinPeterson2006) have sought to show that this astronomy is more consistent with ancient geocentrism (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geocentrism) than with 19th-century Copernican (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolaus_Copernicus) and Newtonian (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaac_Newton) astronomy, and thus carries with it the misconceptions of ancient astronomy.[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-GHP_2006-47) For example, in their interpretation, Kolob is the highest and slowest moving of a series of concentric heavenly spheres, which are centered on Earth.[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-GHP_2006-47) These authors believe that Smith, in the 19th century, would not have made this geocentric "mistake" about Kolob, and therefore, they argue that the Book of Abraham is of ancient origin.[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-GHP_2006-47) John Tvedtnes suggested that "Another possible Hebrew etymology is the Hebrew KLB 'dog' originally pronounced kalb just as it is in Arabic. This is used to denote the star Regulus in Arabic while the Syriac, which is also kalb denotes the star Sirius, the brightest star in the heavens." He also suggested that the Hebraic use of "KLB" as both the word 'dog' and an astronomical term refers to the universality of Sirius (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sirius) as the "Dog Star".[48] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-48)

That makes no sense to link ancient astronomy which is flawed to Kolob to try to defend Kolob since ancient astronomy is flawed; therefore, the idea of Kolob is flawed as well. Trying to defend the idea of Kolob with Kolob coming from a misunderstanding of the cosmos is the dumbest argument I have ever heard.

It's always entertaining listening to the stupidity of spin Mormon scholars put on things.

This sentence makes no sense: "Smith, in the 19th century, would not have made this geocentric "mistake" about Kolob, and therefore, they argue that the Book of Abraham is of ancient origin.[47] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob#cite_note-GHP_2006-47) John Tvedtnes suggested that "Another possible Hebrew etymology is the Hebrew KLB 'dog' originally pronounced kalb just as it is in Arabic."

Mormon scholars are trying to defend the idea that Smith didn't originate his idea from the 19th century, but because this geocentric error was made and Smith would not have made that mistake, therefore, Kolob has ancient origins lends it credibility even though old geocentricism was false, so Kolob is false too.

By the way Sirius is not the biggest star in the heavens. In fact, if you place Sirius next to larger stars, Sirius is so small you can't even see it. Mormons are so dumb.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEheh1BH34Q

Since Mormons are so into the word "dog" let us remember what the Bible says, "don't give what is holy unto dogs" and "a dog will return to his vomit".