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Scriptur
03-29-2014, 07:54 PM
The burden is on the atheist:

1) Explain how something can come from nothing,

OR

2) Explain how infinite regress is possible even though you would have happened already,

AND

3) Find a naturalistic explanation to account for the eyewitness testimony of the Apostles.

If you can't do this, it shows you are going to Hell. God's proof is very simple so nobody is "without excuse" (Rom. 1.20).

Mystermenace
05-13-2014, 11:51 PM
The burden is on the atheist:

1) Explain how something can come from nothing,



Imagine an environment of space without time.
Imagine an object that is infinitely small, that is, it has a 0 measurement of any spatial dimensions.
The object has no size so it has no spatial existence.
imagine the object is 1 unit in size in any spatial dimensions.
Since time does not exist it takes no time for the infinitely small to achieve non-infinitely small spatial dimensions.
This does not violate any laws in a non-temporal environment.

This is how something that doesn't exist can achieve existence (come from nothing).

If you cannot imagine these things that is not a statement of the limitations of the argument,
that is a statement of the limitations of your imagination.

Scriptur
05-14-2014, 03:53 PM
Spacetime is a proven fact so space without time is a fantasy. But let's play your game of timeless space and see if your theory holds up.

An object that is infinitely small is still small so it still has dimensions. Therefore it is a contradiction to say something is infinitely small. Whereas God is not infinitely small, but spaceless and timeless.

When you say something has no spatial existence and also say it has 1 unit size, again, mindlessly, you contradict yourself because 1 unit size has dimensions.

If there is no time in space it would require that it always exist, and no time as you say, but if it were true that nature always existed, you would have happened already, having had endless cause and effect to do so. Again, you contradict yourself.

Everything you said as explained shows you have violated natural laws of cause and effect and an environmental non-temporal existence. Satan in your heart is the author of confusion.

Everything you said also contradicts your 'something from nothing theory' because you said previously it was an object infinitely small. An object that is infinitely small is not nothing, but it is something. So no something from nothing!

If you can't understand these blatant contradictions it is because you limit yourself mindlessly by shutting your mind down creating a warped mindset. God has given you the free will to be obstinate.

Limitations approach a point, yet never reaching that point; but we are not talking about limitations, we are talking about 'cause and effect' that is always observed and can't be violated. And by cause and effect -- a law of the universe -- you would have happened already having had an eternity to do so. Self-contradictory theories expose a theory as false!

You're confused. There is no mystery about that.

Churchwork
05-14-2014, 04:03 PM
Mystermenace,

At least you are consistent in always contradicting yourself. There are no contradictions in Heaven just in the delusional who are going to Hell.

In your profile you reject all 19 questions but answered 'Gifted with tongues' as the 'Work or Gift for the Church.' How do you accept this as your gift or work for the Church yet are not a member of the body of Christ?

I know someone is being insincere when they do that. You've been exposed! Membership at Biblocality Forums is predicated on the search and sincerity for the truth. Since you don't meet this requirement, bye!