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Faithful
11-08-2009, 03:26 AM
http://www.hotm.tv/ (http://www.hotm.tv/) (video 11/03/09)

The Mormon Jesus was created by the Father having sex with one of his wives (similar to having continuous celestial sex with 72 virgins in Muslim heaven except Mormons get a lot more than that). Jesus was popped out of his preexisting spirit state like Satan was from infinite regress. Mormons believe Jesus is their elder brother. Since they believe Satan is the brother of Jesus, then Satan is the brother of Mormons. How wonderful!

The Christian Jesus is the Alpha and the Omega. He has no beginning or end. He has no brother. He created all things. Jesus is from above, we are from beneath. Jesus differentiates Himself. He comes down as God in the Trinity taking on the likeness of flesh.

Early Mormons said Jesus was married.

The Christian Jesus was not married and did not have multiple wives.

Mormon Jesus atoned for sins in the Garden of Gethsemane.

The Christian Jesus atoned for our sins on the cross.

The Mormon Jesus doesn't create all things, but became a God.

The Christian Jesus always was God, creating all things and returned to the right hand of the Father from whence He came.

Mormon Jesus was conceived of the Father. The Father use to be flesh and blood, none other than Adam. Mary was not a virgin when conceiving Jesus. She had lots of celestial sex. Her womb is so hard now in Mormonism.

The Christian Jesus was born of a virgin. The Father was not natural before or ever. God is spirit. No man Has seen the Father.

everstill
11-09-2009, 12:03 PM
Of course, the Father has a tangible, resurrected, glorified body of flesh and bones (not blood), the same as Jesus.... There is also much evidence in the Bible for the corporeality of the Father. The Bible clearly teaches that God has a physical body. The Bible clearly teaches that God has a physical body. With serious proof-texting, many come to the conclusion that God is a spirit and hence without a physical body. New Research has shown that the scripture used for this has been misapplied. We believe that Hebrews 1:2-3 is one of the most clear, powerful and straight forward for showing that God is embodied with a divine body, with a human shape. Christ ascending with his body in the resurrection is exactly like his Father who is in Heaven. Christ has a body, so does his Father.
For twenty centuries we needed to wait upon New Research about what the Apostles wrote in the New Testament? Surely you jest. How is this New Research?

"But in these last days he has spoken to us by a Son, whom he appointed the heir of all things, through whom also he created the world. He reflects the glory of God and bears the very stamp of his nature, upholding the universe by his word of power. When he had made purification for sins, he sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high" (Heb. 1.2,3 RSV).

You're assuming into the text that which is not there. There is nothing to suggest the Father was resurrected or has a fleshly body. The Bible says God is Spirit. He remains Spirit before Jesus' incarnation and after. The Bible says no man can see the Father, but if He has a fleshly body then you could see Him; therefore, you contradict the Bible. Man is made in God's image, but that doesn't mean we are a spirit Being like the Trinity is. We are soulical beings with a spirit and a body. We are made in God's image because we have all that goes with that.

You fail to make your case, so there is no reason, none whatsoever for a Christian to accept Mormons as Christians. You worship a false Christ and a false Father.