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Scriptur
06-20-2009, 04:33 PM
Calvinists don't love God's omnibenevolence. They misconstrue God's sufficient grace for all needing to be equal grace for the OSAS Arminian or "in the same way" (James White, Debating Calvinism, p.17). Sufficient grace is not the same as equal grace. As long as grace is sufficient for all to give everyone the opportunity, then Jesus' death on the cross is sufficient for all. Grace is not sufficient under God's sovereignty if some people can't avail it or if it is irresistibly imposed. Rather, it would be deficient.

James White accuse Dave Hunt that "he denies the freedom of God in election and regeneration" (p.17). Not at all, for Hunt agrees God is completely free in giving man the choice, even more so than the god of Calvinism, because the god of Calvinism is not free enough to given man the choice.

God even provided sufficient grace for Hitler, but that is not saying God loves Hitler equally as much as the Apostle John. Rather with God's love given, the person had the choice to refuse and the person has no excuse for rejecting salvation. This is in stark contrast to god of Calvinism who doesn't love the person at all, either sending him to Hell without recourse or irresistibly imposing salvation on him against his will, like someone on the chain gang. Either way, it is not pleasant.

White claims God's love fails if someone is not saved. But isn't this true of Calvinism, for if the god of Calvinism can save all, but doesn't, isn't he a failure? Moreover, he is a failure for not providing sufficient grace to all. But the OSAS Arminian teaches God doesn't fail, because God did all He could do righteously according to His nature to provide salvation, but if the person still rejects it, that is by no means God's fault or reflecting badly upon His love.

White fails to see why it is evil for God to condemn billions to Hell without any chance of being saved, for not only are they born this way (thus it is not their fault) if no provision is made, but it is quite evil to save someone irresistibly without the choice. That would be like forcing another human being into marriage with you against their will. What love is this?

If God is truly free, righteous, holy and true, He is obligated out of His very being to extend grace to all people made in His image. A sinner is bound for Hell, but a sinner without the option who was born into sin ought not to be unjustly treated by his Creator.

The very sin of every Calvinist is a dead conscience professing that it is ok for God to deny people the opportunity or enablement to receive His grace for salvation. And it is because of this evil in the heart of James White, you know he is not born-again and in all likelihood, never will be. The very fatal flaw of Calvinism is a sign of unsalvation revealing one's heart.

God is not allowed to love freely unrighteously. Who could even say that is really free, for then God would be bound by the evil spirit?

Scriptur
06-20-2009, 05:12 PM
How can the Reformation be Calvinism when John Calvin was eight years old when Martin Luther nailed his Ninety-Five Theses to the door in Wittenberg? For 1500 years biblical Christians resisted Rome before Luther, rejecting the Pope and the subsequent Protestant Pope of Geneva. How can Calvinism be the deliverance from the Roman Church when Calvinists accepted the state church practices of the Roman Church and shared with the Roman Church in persecuting and martyring Anabaptists and OSAS Arminians?

Calvin excluded certain libertarian (free-will) civic minded officials from a lord's supper of Calvinists. Leaders of the rebellion were sentenced to death in absentia. Four who failed to escape were beheaded, quartered, and their body parts hung in strategic locations as a warning (Francois Wendel, Calvin, 100; Bernard Cottret, Calvin, 198-200). Nobody dared mess with the Calvinist leaders again, for the fear was palpable, your death would soon follow. How is this Christ-like?

Historian David Gay writes: the Calvinist Westminster Assembly, used to control England, "included no Baptists in their Assembly.... Baillie complained of the Independents...'admit of none to be members of the congregation....'" If this principle was applied to the Calvinist churches, Baillie says only one in 40 members would remain. The Westminster Assembly established a State Church which embraced all only to the extent it could include everyone if they kept silent.

Calvin never said how he became a Christian. Calvin never documented an experience of being born-again of the Holy Spirit through believing the gospel. He considered that new birth unnecessary for all who had been baptized into the Roman Church in infancy and had confirmation of their baptism. Ex-Catholics would not accept Calvin into their ranks.

Scriptur
06-21-2009, 10:30 PM
James White says we should not "edit" Him down to a more "manageable" and "manlike" deity, but isn't that what White is doing, for he worships a god that has morals like a lot of men do as we have seen throughout history like Hitler, who irresistibly imposed Jews to the gas chambers and declared those who were born Aryan are the chosen ones where they had no choice in the matter. So men today worship an evil god of Calvinism that does the same thing. An unsaved man can manage this kind of god and wrap this kind of deity around his head, but not a God who has the immense power to give us free-will, for how can God reconcile His infinite foreknowledge with free-will? For if God could do that, He surely would be greater than us. So they bring God down to their level and make Him an evil tyrant who is either unwilling or unable to do this. What love is this? Thank God the God of the Bible trumps the god of Calvinism with infinitely greater power and morals.

The foolishness of idolatry of Calvinism is this: to create a teaching called total depravity, build a theology around this extreme view of depravity and exalt it, making God a puppeteer rather than a God who wants fellowship with man made in His image with free-will as God has free-will. Christians do not agree with James White's type of "sovereign decree," for God does not need to be a puppeteer and make people puppets.