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Faithful
03-24-2009, 03:22 PM
Calvin often contradicted himself. He taught that all men "are born and live for the express purpose of learning to know God" and therefore "it is clear that all those who do not direct the whole thoughts and actions of their lives to this end fail to fulfill the law of their being." Calvin here is contradicting his own Calvinism. How could the very "law of their being" compel all mankind to seek God, when they are unable to do so? It would make sense for men to be unwilling to fulfill the "law" of their being, but to be unable to do so would indict the Creator.

Having acknowledged the fact that God made man to seek, to find and to know Him, how could Calvin believe in Total Depravity? Would God have made all men for the very purpose of seeking after and knowing Him, as Paul plainly said on Mar's Hill (Acts 17.26-28), and at the same time neglect to provide the very grace they need for that seeking and knowing? And why would God predestinate to damnation before their birth multitudes of those He would bring into the world "for the express purpose of learning to know" Him?

"And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us: For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, For we are also his offspring" (Acts 17.26-28).

Check out this horrible, unbiblical picture by Calvin that spawned the idea of Irresistible Grace. He said that when men "do think of God it is against their will; never approaching him without being dragged into his presence, and when there, instead of the voluntary fear flowing from reverence of the divine majesty, feeling only forced and servile fear which divine judgment extors...which, while they dread, they at the same time also hate."

Were the elect ever totally depraved so they had to be irresistibly forced? Or where they drawn by God? Many testify to having took pleasure in seeking God. Enoch walked with God. Abraham was a friend of God. Moses spoke with God face to face. David's psalms testify to a perpetual seeking after and thirst for God. Daniel's time in prayer with God was so precious to him that the threat of being thrown into the lion's den could not cause him to give it up. Where does it ever say these men were irresistibly drawn by God, who changed their wills without willing cooperation on their part? We are told that "Daniel purposed in his heart" (Dan. 1.8)-not that he was regenerated and then given the faith and desire to seek God.

The Bible contains abundant testimony to the fact that men can be drawn to God and do indeed eagerly come and fall down and worship Him. Even if the picture of totally depraved mankind that Calvin paints were true, wouldn't that be all the more reason for a God who is love to extend His grace to all mankind in order to fulfill the purpose for which even Calvin admits He created them? The Calvinist interpretation of John 6 undermines this and hundreds of other scriptures.

Calvinists seem far too eager to embrace a few verses that say man doesn't seek the Lord (confusing unilateral, unconscionable, arbitrary coercion out of an alleged "total depravity," not giving the opportunity to be saved, for the enabling grace needed for everyone because of "propensity to sin") and too reluctant to accept the far greater number of verses that urge man to seek God and that tell of the many who found and love Him. Sadly, the God of Calvinism is very selective with his own brand of love and grace and takes pleasure in damning billions. In defense of God's true character, Christians insist again that such is not the God of the Bible.

Faithful
03-24-2009, 03:36 PM
Calvinism Refuted

If every one is predestinated why did Jesus command his apostles to go into the world and preach the Gospel to every creature? Mark 16:15. And then Jesus said in verse 16, "He that believes in me will be saved, and he that does not believe will be damned."

If everyone is predestinated why preach the Gospel at all?

The preaching of the gospel is what draws men to Christ. Jesus said, "When I am lifted up (up on the cross) I will draw all men to myself." When the Gospel is preached the Holy Spirit is there to convict men of their need for Christ. This is how the 5000 were converted on the day of Pentecost. Peter preached the Gospel. Peter did not say that this Gospel is only for the elect. No, he said, "It shall come to pass that WHOSOEVER shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved," Acts 2:21.

The Gospel refutes Calvinism. In the Gospel God has perfected all of humanity and has taken it to heaven. The Gospel is God's great free gift to humanity, Romans 5:18. We have been MADE complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10. This Gospel is yours only when by faith you make it yours. If you don't accept it you are still in your sins.

John 1:7, The same came for a witness, of the light, thay ALL MEN through him might believe.

John 3:16, For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Acts 22:15, For you shall be witnesses unto ALL MEN of what you have seen and heard.

Romans 5:12, Wherefore as by one man sin entered the world, and death by sin: and so death passed upon ALL MEN, for that all have sinned.

Romans 5:18, Therefore by the offense of one (Adam) judgment came upon ALL MEN to condemnation; even so by the righteousness of one (Christ) the free gift came upon ALL MEN unto justification of life.

Romans 8:32, He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up FOR US ALL, how shall he not give us all things.

2 Corinthians 5:14-15, For the love of God constraines us; because we thus judge, that if one died FOR ALL, then we are ALL dead. And he that died FOR ALL, which live should not live unto themselves.

2 Corinthians 5;19, God was in Christ reconciling the WORLD unto himself.

2 Corinthians 9:13, While by the experiment of this ministration they glorify God for your professed subjection into the gospel of christ, and for your liberal distribution unto them, and unto ALL MEN.

Ephesians 3;9, And to make ALL MEN see what is the fellowship of the mystery from which from the beginning of the world was hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ.

1 Timothy 2:4, Who will have ALL MEN to be saved and to come into the knowledge of the truth.

1 Timothy 2:5-6, For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Jesus Christ who gave himself a ransom FOR ALL.

1 Timothy 4:10, For therefore we both labor and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the savior of ALL MEN.

Titus 2:11, For the grace of God that brings salvation to ALL MEN.

Hebrews 2:9, But we see Jesus who was made a little lower than the angels for the suffering of death, crowned with glory and honor; that he by the grace of God should taste death for EVERY MAN.

Hebrews 10:10, But that we will have been sanctified through the offering of one body of Jesus Christ once FOR ALL.

James 1:15, If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God, that gives to ALL MEN liberally.

1 John 2:2, And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD.

1 John 4:14, And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the savior of the WHOLE WORLD.

1 John 5:4, For whatsoever (whosoever) is born of God overcomes the world: and this is the victory that overcomes the world OUR FAITH.

2 Peter 3:9, The Lord is not slack concerning his promise as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering toward us, not willing THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL should come to repentance.