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InTruth
07-16-2008, 11:54 AM
Problems In The Book Of Mormon


The Book of Mormon presents difficulties that can not be explained away regarding the following topics:


Language: 1 Nephi 1:2, etc., states that Hebrews who left Jerusalem and came to the Americas spoke Egyptian. It is a known fact that Hebrews spoke Hebrew, and their records were kept in Hebrew. Egyptians were their enemies. It is as absurd to think that Hebrews would have written their sacred history in Egyptian as to think that American history would have been written in Russian! In Mormon 9:32,34, it is stated that the language was "reformed Egyptian" and that no other people knew their language. There is no known language called "reformed Egyptian".


Desert Fruit: 1 Nephi 17:5 talks about ample fruit and wild honey being products of the Sinai Desert (called Bountiful). Not possible!


Desert Timber: 1 Nephi 18:1 talks about ample timber that the Jews used to build a ship. There is not ample timber in that area. It was a desert. It is still a desert.


Laman River: 1 Nephi 2:6-9 mentions a river named Laman that flows into the Red Sea. There is no river there and there has not been one since the Pleistocene Era.


Animals: North America had no cows, asses, horses, oxen, etc.; Europeans brought them hundreds and hundreds of years later. North America had no lions, leopards, or sheep at that time. Honey bees were brought here by Europeans much later. Ether 9:18,19 lists domestic cattle, cows and oxen as separate species! They did not even exist in the Americas at that time, nor did chickens, dogs, or elephants.


The Book of Mormon also mentions swine as being useful to man. Maybe, but Hebrews would not think of swine as being useful or good; swine were forbidden, unclean animals to them.


And what on earth are "curloms" and "cumoms"? No such animals have ever been identified anywhere. Domestic animals that are thought to be "useful" would hardly become extinct.


Butter is also mentioned, but it could not possibly have existed, since no milk-producing animals were found in the Americas at that time.


Clothing Material: The Book of Mormon mentions silk and wool clothing, but they did not exist at that time, nor did moths (1 Nephi 13:7; Alma 46, Ether 9:17; 10:24).


Beheaded Shiz: Ether 15:30-31 says that after Shiz (the Jaredite military leader) was beheaded, he rose up and struggled for breath!


Miscalculation: In Ether, chapter 6, we learn that furious winds propelled the barges to the Promised Land for 344 days! Even if the winds were not "furious" but, for example, blew only 10 miles per hour, the distance traveled in 344 days would have been 82,560 miles, or more than three times around the world. Absurdity, to say the least!


And why would the Lord instruct the brother of Jared to make a hole on top and bottom of each barge (Ether 2:20)?


Population: (see Appendix): When Lehi left Jerusalem, according to the Book of Mormon, his group consisted of fewer than 20 people. Yet 19 years later the people had so prospered and multiplied in the Promised Land that they built a temple of which the "manner of construction was like unto the temple of Solomon: and the workmanship thereof was exceeding fine" (2 Nephi 5:16).


Looking at what the Bible says about the construction of Solomon's temple, we find that it took 30,000 Israelites, 150,000 hewers of stone and carriers, 3,300 supervisors (1 Kings 5:13-16), and about seven years to build it (see also 1 Kings 6).


How many people could Lehi have had in his group after 19 years?


The book further explains that in fewer than 30 years after arriving on this continent, they had multiplied so rapidly that they divided into two nations. Even the most rapid human reproduction could only have resulted in a few dozen in that brief time, and most of them still would be infants and children, and about one-third older people.


Not only did they divide into two nations, but throughout the book, about every few years they had devastating wars that killed thousands (i.e., Alma 28:2).


Skin Color: After the first 19 or so years, Laman and Lemuel and their descendants and followers (!) turned dark skinned because of their disobedience (2 Nephi 5:21). According to the Book of Mormon, dark skin color was a curse from God. This change of skin color takes place throughout the book. In 2 Nephi 30:6 we read that if Lamanites accepted the "true gospel," they became "white and delightsome" (and, since the 1981 printing of the Book of Mormon, we read that they became "pure"), but if they left this "true gospel," they became "dark and loathsome." People's skin color does not change because they believe or do not believe, nor is skin color a curse!


The Book of Mormon teaches that "Indians" [Native Americans] originated from these Jewish settlers. Native Americans are distinctly Mongoloid. They have the "Mongoloid" blue spot, specified blood traits, and their facial features are of typical Asian origin, not Semitic at all. Current DNA evidence has confirmed this as well.


Conclusion: Joseph Smith was a horrible liar. Again, we see words to do with coming such as "cum" and when picking up women with, sounds like, "cumons". Words for man's ejaculation and an unnatural rise in the size of population in just 19 years is displayed by an evil supernatural explosion of sex with many sex partners. Mormonism is a moronic, antichrist, polytheistic, racist, polygamist sex cult. It's all about their dick and balls with white people no matter how stupid they look in the process worshiping many gods, including themselves for having always existed. God is not gods. The Father and the Son never had a body and never were men. Jesus came into creation nearly 2000 years ago. Jesus is not the brother of Satan. By definition if you are a brother of someone you would be created, unless you enter into creation as the Creator through the womb of a woman who subsequently had some natural children aftewards. You did not always exist. You will never become a god, for there are no gods (just idols), and there is only one uncreated Creator (monotheism). Deal with it! Accept the truth, for it will set you free.

Apoche
07-17-2008, 06:56 AM
While I do not have much sympathy for the Church of Latter-Day Saints, I feel a need to comment on your last paragraph, which was so idiotic I nearly vomited as I read it.




Mormonism is a moronic

This is a good example of the pot calling the kettle black.


antichrist

You people here use this word all the time. People who are not Christian, or even people who are Christian but do not believe in the antichrist, could not care a fig about it.


polytheistic

Henotheistic, moron. They may believe in several gods, but they worship only one, and that is why it's henotheistic.


racist

The same could be said of any form of Christianity, really, though I guess you will disagree with me. At any rate, even though LDS by all likelihood has a racistic background, that does not mean modern-day Mormons are by necessity racists.


polygamist sex cult

Mainstream Mormons do not practice polygamy anymore. Your accusations are, when it comes to this, baseless.


It's all about their dick and balls with white people no matter how stupid they look in the process worshiping many gods, including themselves for having always existed.

Look, not all people agree with you and your admin's religious views, and you better respect that. These silly insults you throw at people of different faiths only make you look idiotic and stupid.


God is not gods.

Not all people agree on this.


You did not always exist. You will never become a god, for there are no gods (just idols), and there is only one uncreated Creator (monotheism).

Don't you get people might not agree with you when it comes to unscientific fields such as religion? You can't prove any religion, so there is no way you have absolute knowledge that no one will become a god.

InTruth
07-17-2008, 09:50 AM
All studied Christians believe the Antichrist is coming at the consummation of this age, for that is what the Word clearly outlines.

It is not henotheism, for they don't worship only one particular God. They worship God as being gods, which is multiple gods. They worship the Father as being one god, the Son as being another god and the Spirit as being yet another being. They say the Father use to be a man then had celestial sex, whatever that means. Whereas, Christians are monotheist. Plus of course there is the problem of claiming there are multiple uncreated creators and the idea that humans have always existed. I know for myself, I was not always existing, so Joseph Smith is a liar and frankly, goofy. He was put to death not for being a polytheist but a polygamist. There can only be one uncreated Creator, otherwise you have other gods before God.

The gods of mormonism are always changing, so while they were documented as clearly racists in the beginning, you will have to contact them specifically in all the details how they treat the blacks now. Whether there is still undercurrents of racism or some exclusion in some fashion, I would be happy to inform you at a later date exactly how they continue this practice incognito. The point being, Christianity never was like that, but mormonism was, showing you the latter was false.

Christianity is awesome, for every color, nation and peoples are included. Whereas originally mormonism was anti-black. Even Jesus Christ was not white nor black, but brown-skinned as per the region which he was born. Interestingly, Islam is anti-white, since they have no white muslims.

There is still some sects of mormonism that practice polygamy. Watch the news lately? But you still miss the point. The fact that they were polygamist to begin with shows their root was false, just like they are false for believing God is gods. Sure Joseph Smith thought he was being couth and cunning with his revelation from two gods in 1820, but that was just the operation of the evil spirit in his own heart.

What matters is these things are proven and most importantly of all: God is not gods.

Of course non-Christians disagree; that's why they have martyred Christians throughout the centuries and expressed their hostility as you do now. We cannot respect false teachings that are clearly proven false. That would be a sin. We can be respectful to the person but not their erroneous ideas.

The determining factor is not whether everyone agrees but since the Word of God is inerrant then what does the Bible say? It says "have no other gods before me" (Ex. 20.3); thus, there is one uncreated Creator in the OT and NT.

It is scientifically proven that there is only one uncreated Creator, firstly because nothing in nature happens all by itself, and secondly because there is only one uncaused cause, so there can not be multiple existing beings in the eternity of the past. There can only be One.

That people don't agree with the scientific proof is because they show their hostility to their Creator and don't care for the truth in their disobedience and independency apart from God, like Adam when he fell from grace.

You can disprove all religions except Christianity since Christianity is fully proven as we have seen. That people don't agree doesn't matter, for they can't overturn the proof for God. Lots of people are going to Hell, for more than are going to the new city in the new earth. That's reality. Amen.