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Faithful
03-13-2007, 12:52 PM
Islam is confused and insensitive to the facts:

(1) It does not understand Jesus emptied Himself of His independent attributes to be obedient in creation to show mankind redemption;

(2) the Godhead is not a Person, but 3 Persons;

(3) you cannot be born a Christian, but one must choose;

(4) once a Christian, it is impossible to be a non-Christian because once-saved-always-saved. Once God gives His eternal uncreated life it shall remain forever by His infinite foreknowledge to know whom to give it. He foresees all things and never makes a mistake;

(5) you cannot make claims of additions or alterations to the Bible 600 years later, for there is no evidence and thus, no credibility in that; and

(6) the proof of the Trinity is that God reveals Himself in 3 ways: by the Father of the OT, the Son in the NT who was prophesied to be the perfect sacrifice in the OT, and the indwelling Holy Spirit. These are the 3 Persons of the Godhead who held council before the foundations of the world such that the Father spoke it, the Son created and the Spirit executed and renews creation. Believe and you shall receive.

The reason a person cannot accept the Trinity is because they are not saved, and they are not saved because they have not received what Jesus did for them on the cross to forgive all sins and give eternal life which only God can do. No man-only person has that power. The reason people can not receive Christ is because they are too selfish to do so. In order to gain your soul, you need to lose it first in Christ.

Ergo, the need for hell to keep them separated from God and His sons and daughters for all eternity! In God's eyes, they are bad people, for they are made in God's image with the full capability and spirit of God-consciousness to have the free-choice to accept His only begotten Son. Yet they do not, because they love the world and the ideas they construct for themselves more than God's will for them which causes them to remain independent and disobedient to God.

Even a person on some remote island who has never heard of Christ and the Bible could be saved, for if they looked at the stars and the mountains and accepted that God did it, surely they would be saved. If the 66 books of the Bible were given to them, they would promptly accept Christ Jesus as their Lord and Savior, Uncreated and Being God.

Amen.

Finestwheat
03-14-2007, 06:46 PM
The one thing a Muslim is stuck on is seeing Jesus as God, for God broke into creation to be a man and show us obedience unto the Father; not unto himself, but to the 1st Person in the Godhead, whereas Jesus is the 2nd Person who perfectly atoned for our sins which only God can do. No man could atone for my sins but the man who is also God the Son. All that is born of the flesh is flesh. Flesh can not atone. Jesus came in the likeness of flesh. That's the difference.